Comments on: The Future is SVG - So Very Good http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:48:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: redhans http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-15080 redhans Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:25:29 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-15080 SVG has been around a while. We have been using it for years for displaying online maps for vehicle tracking. I don't know how it does with other browsers, but with the Adobe SVG plugin for IE we have a complete street level map of Hungary to show the tracks, speed, etc for all the vehicles in a fleet: http://www.hirot.hu/cason. Of course with maps we are dealing with huge file sizes so its still a bit slow. SVG has been around a while. We have been using it for years for displaying online maps for vehicle tracking. I don’t know how it does with other browsers, but with the Adobe SVG plugin for IE we have a complete street level map of Hungary to show the tracks, speed, etc for all the vehicles in a fleet: http://www.hirot.hu/cason. Of course with maps we are dealing with huge file sizes so its still a bit slow.

]]> By: SitePoint Blogs » Canvas for IE with VML http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-12404 SitePoint Blogs » Canvas for IE with VML Wed, 04 Jan 2006 03:12:49 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-12404 [...] Where <canvas> has been used has been in implementing support for Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) in Firefox 1.5. SVG is a W3C standard for 2D graphics similar in scope to <canvas>, but with the ability to access previously-drawn graphics and modify them using JavaScript. Firefox 1.5’s support for SVG is built atop <canvas>. [...] […] Where <canvas> has been used has been in implementing support for Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) in Firefox 1.5. SVG is a W3C standard for 2D graphics similar in scope to <canvas>, but with the ability to access previously-drawn graphics and modify them using JavaScript. Firefox 1.5’s support for SVG is built atop <canvas>. […]

]]> By: ramesh pallikara http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-12067 ramesh pallikara Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:45:07 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-12067 i found sodipodi to be among the best svg editors btw i found sodipodi to be among the best svg editors btw

]]> By: derek http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-12017 derek Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:30:28 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-12017 <blockquote>The SVG test cases at Adobe’s plugin download site don’t work in Firefox.</blockquote> Looks like they are in svgz (compressed format). Perhaps if they were in plain SVG, they would work. Anyone tried contacting Adobe...? <blockquote>Why can’t we all just get along?</blockquote> Um - because PC users live in a world dominated by a giant monopoly: since when are we going to "get along"?!

The SVG test cases at Adobe’s plugin download site don’t work in Firefox.

Looks like they are in svgz (compressed format). Perhaps if they were in plain SVG, they would work. Anyone tried contacting Adobe…?

Why can’t we all just get along?

Um - because PC users live in a world dominated by a giant monopoly: since when are we going to “get along”?!

]]> By: Ron http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-11348 Ron Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:15:01 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-11348 The SVG test cases at Adobe's plugin download <a href="http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/main.html" rel="nofollow">site </a>don't work in Firefox. The car image above doesn't work in IE even with the plugin. Why can't we all just get along? Ron The SVG test cases at Adobe’s plugin download site don’t work in Firefox.

The car image above doesn’t work in IE even with the plugin.

Why can’t we all just get along?

Ron

]]> By: AlexW http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-8759 AlexW Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:07:39 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-8759 <blockquote>for gods sake, who cares about svg! Isn;t it enough we have all kinds of ready and well compressed formats to work with? Maybe you have nothing more to do so lets see what more can we cramp in a web developers work now, shall we?</blockquote> ori, if you're waiting for a 'golden moment' where the process of Web development is a static, universally agreed-upon and completed 'body of work', I think you're in the wrong business. Perhaps try something like house-painting. No runaway technology trains there ;) 3-4 years ago CSS layout was still an experimental irrelevancy. In 2005, if you aren't able to <em>at least</em> speak authoratively to your clients about it, you probably aren't doing your job very well. It is early days for SVG, but I suspect that SVG will be equally important and, frankly, exciting to work with in the coming years.

for gods sake, who cares about svg! Isn;t it enough we have all kinds of ready and well compressed formats to work with? Maybe you have nothing more to do so lets see what more can we cramp in a web developers work now, shall we?

ori, if you’re waiting for a ‘golden moment’ where the process of Web development is a static, universally agreed-upon and completed ‘body of work’, I think you’re in the wrong business. Perhaps try something like house-painting. No runaway technology trains there ;)

3-4 years ago CSS layout was still an experimental irrelevancy. In 2005, if you aren’t able to at least speak authoratively to your clients about it, you probably aren’t doing your job very well.

It is early days for SVG, but I suspect that SVG will be equally important and, frankly, exciting to work with in the coming years.

]]> By: Michael Schumacher http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-8750 Michael Schumacher Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:20:46 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-8750 Please note that GIMP is not supposed to be a SVG editor - additonally, the plug-in that is mentioned in this article is for GIMP 1.3, which has been the developer series to GIMP 2.0 - we're at 2.2.8 now. The import capabilities are considered more complete, we use librsvg for this. Exporting SVG is mainly to simplyfy post-processing, e.g. by using Inkscape and an image created by GIMP. Please note that GIMP is not supposed to be a SVG editor - additonally, the plug-in that is mentioned in this article is for GIMP 1.3, which has been the developer series to GIMP 2.0 - we’re at 2.2.8 now.

The import capabilities are considered more complete, we use librsvg for this. Exporting SVG is mainly to simplyfy post-processing, e.g. by using Inkscape and an image created by GIMP.

]]> By: ori http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-8745 ori Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:31:17 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-8745 for gods sake, who cares about svg! Isn;t it enough we have all kinds of ready and well compressed formats to work with? Maybe you have nothing more to do so lets see what more can we cramp in a web developers work now, shall we? for gods sake, who cares about svg! Isn;t it enough we have all kinds of ready and well compressed formats to work with? Maybe you have nothing more to do so lets see what more can we cramp in a web developers work now, shall we?

]]> By: AlexW http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-8730 AlexW Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:45:02 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-8730 I guess it's relative, redux. There are simply a lot of co-ordinates in the example. The pedal car is a pretty organic construction. I wouldn't want to speak SVG, but if you've ever looked into the guts of a JPEG, I'd take the SVG any day. I guess it’s relative, redux. There are simply a lot of co-ordinates in the example. The pedal car is a pretty organic construction.

I wouldn’t want to speak SVG, but if you’ve ever looked into the guts of a JPEG, I’d take the SVG any day.

]]> By: redux http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/12/the-future-is-svg-so-very-good/#comment-8726 redux Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:58:05 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1197#comment-8726 ah...comment function mangled the above, which should have ended in: yeah nothing better than reading <blockquote>M175.558,221.769c-0.019-2.954,4.216,2.32,0,1c-0.867,5.2,4.498,4.168,7,6c2.995-0.658-0.957-2.138,0-4 c5.763-0.097,8.587,2.745,13,4c0.739-3.407-3.687-1.647-4-4c7.972-4.693,18.138-7.193,18-20c-0.962-3.038-5.823-2.177-8-4 c2.499-1.771,1.08-1.273,1-5c5.521,1.813,11.438,3.228,17,5c0.033-4.75-10.633-14.084-8-22c0.42-1.267,4.705-5.417,7-6 c15.34-3.9,47.221,24.342,43,44c9.813-3.853,18.227-9.104,30-11c-0.275,2.06-3.727,0.941-4,3c17.282-9.455,43.089,5.55,64,8 c-22.749,15.252-57.102,18.899-90,24c-3.315,0.02-1.017,5.651-3,7c28.164-5.502,56.109-11.224,85-16</blockquote> to get a reasonable idea of what's going on... ah…comment function mangled the above, which should have ended in:

yeah nothing better than reading

M175.558,221.769c-0.019-2.954,4.216,2.32,0,1c-0.867,5.2,4.498,4.168,7,6c2.995-0.658-0.957-2.138,0-4 c5.763-0.097,8.587,2.745,13,4c0.739-3.407-3.687-1.647-4-4c7.972-4.693,18.138-7.193,18-20c-0.962-3.038-5.823-2.177-8-4 c2.499-1.771,1.08-1.273,1-5c5.521,1.813,11.438,3.228,17,5c0.033-4.75-10.633-14.084-8-22c0.42-1.267,4.705-5.417,7-6 c15.34-3.9,47.221,24.342,43,44c9.813-3.853,18.227-9.104,30-11c-0.275,2.06-3.727,0.941-4,3c17.282-9.455,43.089,5.55,64,8 c-22.749,15.252-57.102,18.899-90,24c-3.315,0.02-1.017,5.651-3,7c28.164-5.502,56.109-11.224,85-16

to get a reasonable idea of what’s going on…

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