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		<title>By: seermit</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-228686</link>
		<dc:creator>seermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for an affiliate dating company, we have thousands of sites under different domains, all with links back to our main site - http&lt;strong&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;//www.world-dating-partners.com.  Suddenly doing a search for &quot;link:&lt;em&gt;domain&lt;/em&gt;&quot; and &quot;@:&lt;em&gt;domain&lt;/em&gt;&quot; is returning very few results.

There has obviously been some sort of filtering by google not on our links out, but our links in. Has anybody else had experiences of this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for an affiliate dating company, we have thousands of sites under different domains, all with links back to our main site &#8211; http<strong>:</strong>//www.world-dating-partners.com.  Suddenly doing a search for &#8220;link:<em>domain</em>&#8221; and &#8220;@:<em>domain</em>&#8221; is returning very few results.</p>
<p>There has obviously been some sort of filtering by google not on our links out, but our links in. Has anybody else had experiences of this?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DanThies</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-10206</link>
		<dc:creator>DanThies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So say I sell a text link on my site to another website because I’ve got a PR7, and Google finds out about my doing so, they will just stop counting any links like this toward search engine results?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s about it, based on the public comments we&#039;ve seen. Of course, it&#039;s likely that *all* of the links out from your site would no longer be trusted, not just the ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So say I sell a text link on my site to another website because I’ve got a PR7, and Google finds out about my doing so, they will just stop counting any links like this toward search engine results?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s about it, based on the public comments we&#8217;ve seen. Of course, it&#8217;s likely that *all* of the links out from your site would no longer be trusted, not just the ads.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: deronsizemore</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-10205</link>
		<dc:creator>deronsizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I suppose that I did misunderstand it totally.  Thanks for trying to clear it up.  So say I sell a text link on my site to another website because I&#039;ve got a PR7, and Google finds out about my doing so, they will just stop counting any links like this toward search engine results?  

Sorry to keep asking questions.  I&#039;m just trying to get on the right page since I was way off with my first couple comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I suppose that I did misunderstand it totally.  Thanks for trying to clear it up.  So say I sell a text link on my site to another website because I&#8217;ve got a PR7, and Google finds out about my doing so, they will just stop counting any links like this toward search engine results?  </p>
<p>Sorry to keep asking questions.  I&#8217;m just trying to get on the right page since I was way off with my first couple comments.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DanThies</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-10204</link>
		<dc:creator>DanThies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 02:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deron,

You&#039;re misunderstanding the situation. Google won&#039;t drop your site or anything like that. All they&#039;ll do is stop counting the links pointing out of it.

I couldn&#039;t tell you what their internal process would be to identify sites, but it&#039;s not hard to spot sites that are selling links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deron,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re misunderstanding the situation. Google won&#8217;t drop your site or anything like that. All they&#8217;ll do is stop counting the links pointing out of it.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t tell you what their internal process would be to identify sites, but it&#8217;s not hard to spot sites that are selling links.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: deronsizemore</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-10203</link>
		<dc:creator>deronsizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 02:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Thanks for the reply.  I see your point.  I guess it&#039;s like anything else.  Google has rules and if you don&#039;t follow them then you don&#039;t get listed on their SE.  How would Google every really find out I&#039;m selling links anyway unless I openly made it known what I was up to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.  I see your point.  I guess it&#8217;s like anything else.  Google has rules and if you don&#8217;t follow them then you don&#8217;t get listed on their SE.  How would Google every really find out I&#8217;m selling links anyway unless I openly made it known what I was up to?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DanThies</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-10202</link>
		<dc:creator>DanThies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 01:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deron,

Nobody&#039;s getting punished, unless you think Google owes you a living in the first place. If you sell text links, fine. If Google decides not to count the links you sold in generating search results, that&#039;s their business.

The link rental &quot;industry&quot; that was thriving a year ago is not going to last forever, operating the same way. That doesn&#039;t mean people won&#039;t buy links. I buy advertising all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deron,</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s getting punished, unless you think Google owes you a living in the first place. If you sell text links, fine. If Google decides not to count the links you sold in generating search results, that&#8217;s their business.</p>
<p>The link rental &#8220;industry&#8221; that was thriving a year ago is not going to last forever, operating the same way. That doesn&#8217;t mean people won&#8217;t buy links. I buy advertising all the time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: deronsizemore</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-10196</link>
		<dc:creator>deronsizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just seems to me that Google created the monster.  They made their system based around PR and backlinks right?  There are always going to be people out there willing to cheat and bent the rules to get ahead of the game.  I don&#039;t think its right that Google can dictate whether or not I sell a link to my site because I&#039;ve got a high PR?  They should have realized that was going to happen when they started with all the PR stuff.

I saw a post where someone asked something like &quot;does google really owe you a living?&quot;  Well no they don&#039;t, but if they are going to set the rules for getting ranked high, don&#039;t punish someone from your search engine becuase they found a loophole...I mean hell they are still making billions of dollars, who cares right?  

I&#039;ll admit I don&#039;t know a great deal about SEO and PR and such, so if I&#039;m way off base here, someone let me know and please explain why.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just seems to me that Google created the monster.  They made their system based around PR and backlinks right?  There are always going to be people out there willing to cheat and bent the rules to get ahead of the game.  I don&#8217;t think its right that Google can dictate whether or not I sell a link to my site because I&#8217;ve got a high PR?  They should have realized that was going to happen when they started with all the PR stuff.</p>
<p>I saw a post where someone asked something like &#8220;does google really owe you a living?&#8221;  Well no they don&#8217;t, but if they are going to set the rules for getting ranked high, don&#8217;t punish someone from your search engine becuase they found a loophole&#8230;I mean hell they are still making billions of dollars, who cares right?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit I don&#8217;t know a great deal about SEO and PR and such, so if I&#8217;m way off base here, someone let me know and please explain why.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SitePoint Blogs &#187; Selling Text Links</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-10192</link>
		<dc:creator>SitePoint Blogs &#187; Selling Text Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thanks to the emergency of link popularity as a cornerstone of search engine algorithms a whole industry of the buying and selling of text links has developed. This has bearings on both website revenue and search engine optimization as Dan Thies recently discussed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thanks to the emergency of link popularity as a cornerstone of search engine algorithms a whole industry of the buying and selling of text links has developed. This has bearings on both website revenue and search engine optimization as Dan Thies recently discussed. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DanThies</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-8378</link>
		<dc:creator>DanThies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of course we all know the biggest seller of text links, a little company called Yahoo. They charge $300 yearly for a link from a decent PR ontopic directory page.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The difference, of course, is that Yahoo does an editorial review of submitted sites, uses the name of the company as the &#039;anchor text,&#039; and links to a substantial number of sites that have not paid for a review - even in commercial categories.

There are a lot of directories that don&#039;t have the editorial standards of Yahoo. Many of these have been subject to an editorial review by Google, so that their links are no more trusted than the paid ads on O&#039;Reilly&#039;s network.
&lt;blockquote&gt;paying someone to advertising your site via a link has been around pretty much as long as link exchanges.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Indeed, and anyone is free to make their own advertising decisions. Still, as a user of search engines, I&#039;m very happy to see them taking steps to reduce the influence paid links have in search results.

A lot of the text link ads that you see across the web perform perfectly well as advertising. If you&#039;re depending on a search engine ranking boost to justify the expense of paid advertising, you may find that your money doesn&#039;t go as far as it used to... and that&#039;s a good thing for the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of course we all know the biggest seller of text links, a little company called Yahoo. They charge $300 yearly for a link from a decent PR ontopic directory page.</p></blockquote>
<p>The difference, of course, is that Yahoo does an editorial review of submitted sites, uses the name of the company as the &#8216;anchor text,&#8217; and links to a substantial number of sites that have not paid for a review &#8211; even in commercial categories.</p>
<p>There are a lot of directories that don&#8217;t have the editorial standards of Yahoo. Many of these have been subject to an editorial review by Google, so that their links are no more trusted than the paid ads on O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s network.</p>
<blockquote><p>paying someone to advertising your site via a link has been around pretty much as long as link exchanges.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, and anyone is free to make their own advertising decisions. Still, as a user of search engines, I&#8217;m very happy to see them taking steps to reduce the influence paid links have in search results.</p>
<p>A lot of the text link ads that you see across the web perform perfectly well as advertising. If you&#8217;re depending on a search engine ranking boost to justify the expense of paid advertising, you may find that your money doesn&#8217;t go as far as it used to&#8230; and that&#8217;s a good thing for the web.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Blackhat SEO &#187; Links with less value - content text links</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/08/24/google-doesnt-trust-all-links/comment-page-1/#comment-8371</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackhat SEO &#187; Links with less value - content text links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] An interesting post by Quadszilla on his blog about Google valueing certain kinds of links less. Google is smarter than most people think. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] An interesting post by Quadszilla on his blog about Google valueing certain kinds of links less. Google is smarter than most people think. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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