Comments on: Get Serious with MySQL 5

By: Dean C

Dean C — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Grrr, right in the middle of my exams :( Can't watch it!

By: Div By Zero

Div By Zero — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Very interesting … Mysql 5 promises to be the most important Mysql release in years !

By: Dr Livingston

Dr Livingston — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Promises... Promises... Umm

I like MySql, just so long as it's not marketed to be more than what it actually is. Stored Procedures and Triggers and Views are nothing new, Postgre has had them for a while now.

So what does MySql5 have, that'd convince me to use it?

By: bwarrene

bwarrene — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

I am not sure (at least in my case) that I would post this to convert you. I am sure MySQL would like to lure you away from even the friendliest of competitors.

More imporant to MySQL 5 is the fact that a vast universe of users on all scales from small web developer to NASA have been working around this lack of features for years. They are now available and surely exciting to those folk.

Some may make the switch from proprietary to MySQL and others will simply not take note.

Just like anything else - people use what they are accustomed to.

By: Eric.Coleman

Eric.Coleman — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

It's great that MySQL 5 is almost out, and yet, the majority of MySQL installs that I deal with daily (clients servers, not mine) are still 4.0.x

Any speculation as to the adoption rate?

By: Etnu

Etnu — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

People are lazy, mostly. Upgrading from MySQL4.0 to MySQL 4.1 requires nothing more than making sure that you either enable old_passwords (simplest thing), or use client libraries that support the new password schemes.

People will probably start adopting 4.1 (and 5.0, once it's stable) when they start adopting php5. I'm still baffled as to the number of people who won't even TRY to upgrade to php5, uttering the age-old mantra "we're concerned about possible issues with upgrading...". Just do it! You won't know if there's going to be any issues if you don't try it. I've yet to see any significant application that had difficulties upgrading to php5.

It's true that most applications won't gain much (slightly better performance) by upgrading to mysql 4.1, but it certainly won't hurt any, and you can start using the new features in your new code.

By: Eric.Coleman

Eric.Coleman — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

The issue with php4 -> php5 is due to crappy code (i think).

Software packages such as phpbb tried to stay backwards compatible way to far back, and thus doesn't work properly with php5. Several changes need to be implemented for this to happen.

PHP 5.1 one is right around the corner, and hopefully this will cause people to start upgrading.

- Eric

By: asp_funda

asp_funda — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

I for one use MySQL & not PgSQL(hope to do soon) & I've been waiting eagerly for MySQL5. Finally, just around the corner!! :D

People are lazy, mostly. Upgrading from MySQL4.0 to MySQL 4.1 requires nothing more than making sure that you either enable old_passwords (simplest thing), or use client libraries that support the new password schemes.

yes, that's true!! You'll still find lots of web-hosts sporting the old MySQL 4.0.x versions simply b'coz they can't muster the strength to upgrade & then they have the guts to say "Why mess with something that's running fine?"!! Not even that, I know a host or two who still are running the v3.x!! :eek:

PHP 5.1 one is right around the corner, and hopefully this will cause people to start upgrading.

Just like it happened with PHP4.1?? ;)