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		<title>By: kaklz</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7066</link>
		<dc:creator>kaklz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No more kakorrhaphiophobia!&lt;br /&gt;
:p&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more kakorrhaphiophobia!<br />
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		<title>By: hurtdidit</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7067</link>
		<dc:creator>hurtdidit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The best (A+) students often end up working for the good (B) students.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I laughed when I read that, but the more I think about it, the more I realize the accuracy of that statement!  Several of my colleagues fit this theory, and I myself am a college dropout--with two Masters Degree holders among those on my payroll.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Curious if others can attest to similar circumstances?&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>The best (A+) students often end up working for the good (B) students.</p>
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</p><p>I laughed when I read that, but the more I think about it, the more I realize the accuracy of that statement!  Several of my colleagues fit this theory, and I myself am a college dropout&#8211;with two Masters Degree holders among those on my payroll.  </p>
<p>Curious if others can attest to similar circumstances?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pdxi</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7068</link>
		<dc:creator>pdxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One problem that I suffer from is trying to achieve too lofty of a goal, and beating myself up if I don't succeed. I changed my mindset so that I recognize my current successes, and I set realistic goals for myself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's a good way to beat a morbid fear of failure: Don't set easy goals, but don't set impossible goals.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem that I suffer from is trying to achieve too lofty of a goal, and beating myself up if I don&#8217;t succeed. I changed my mindset so that I recognize my current successes, and I set realistic goals for myself.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good way to beat a morbid fear of failure: Don&#8217;t set easy goals, but don&#8217;t set impossible goals.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ryan Wray</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7069</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Wray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, but I have  Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia. This blogs title almost killed me: in fact, writing this post was even worse! :p&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But seriously, good post.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but I have  Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia. This blogs title almost killed me: in fact, writing this post was even worse! :p</p>
<p>But seriously, good post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: drakke</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7070</link>
		<dc:creator>drakke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow Andrew, you really cut right to the bone on these blog posts! I saw a quote somewhere that said basically this: 'to succeed all you need is ignorance and confidence'&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Andrew, you really cut right to the bone on these blog posts! I saw a quote somewhere that said basically this: &#8216;to succeed all you need is ignorance and confidence&#8217;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: the.decoy</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7071</link>
		<dc:creator>the.decoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that's similar to being quick and efficient, instead of being perfectionist and rather slow. =P&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I consider myself a perfectionist and I don't want to lose this perfectionism ever, but I think it can be bad sometimes. So the most important thing is probably "doing the job".&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'll certainly think about this a lot later.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No more kakorrhaphiophobia! =P&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s similar to being quick and efficient, instead of being perfectionist and rather slow. =P</p>
<p>I consider myself a perfectionist and I don&#8217;t want to lose this perfectionism ever, but I think it can be bad sometimes. So the most important thing is probably &#8220;doing the job&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly think about this a lot later.</p>
<p>No more kakorrhaphiophobia! =P</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: otnemem</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7072</link>
		<dc:creator>otnemem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I have mixed fillings about this. Of course I'm very demanding so my position might be biased.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I'm trying to launch a product (or service) I always want it to be as close to perfect as possible. When I see that we are closing to the deadline and delaying launch could mean we are missing the opportunity, we start to think about cutting features... delivering something that works. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although we do this from time to time, we are always careful that whatever we released is A+ quality. This is where I disagree a little. No matter how little is what we do, I always expect A+ quality. Less than that I feel it is mediocre :(&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What do you feel about this? What are your standards for services/products you buy? Do you feel ok about receiving a website soon, with all the functionality, but bloated with bugs? would you prefer less functionality to achieve the deadline with the minimum ammount of bugs?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have mixed fillings about this. Of course I&#8217;m very demanding so my position might be biased.</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m trying to launch a product (or service) I always want it to be as close to perfect as possible. When I see that we are closing to the deadline and delaying launch could mean we are missing the opportunity, we start to think about cutting features&#8230; delivering something that works. </p>
<p>Although we do this from time to time, we are always careful that whatever we released is A+ quality. This is where I disagree a little. No matter how little is what we do, I always expect A+ quality. Less than that I feel it is mediocre :(</p>
<p>What do you feel about this? What are your standards for services/products you buy? Do you feel ok about receiving a website soon, with all the functionality, but bloated with bugs? would you prefer less functionality to achieve the deadline with the minimum ammount of bugs?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: digitman</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7073</link>
		<dc:creator>digitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Andrew, I have a question.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I get most of my business from sites such as RentACoder, Elance, etc. My question is, in these cases, how long should the bid request be?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whenever I bid at a project, I think of a few questions to ask about the client's requirements, and comment on those questions, make suggestions etc.&lt;br /&gt;
But often that backfires, as I go to comment on the questions, I go on and on and the comments are pretty big. Hence, the bid request gets about 1-2 pages long.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you think writing long bid requests at the first correspondence is a good thing, or a bad thing?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, I have a question.</p>
<p>I get most of my business from sites such as RentACoder, Elance, etc. My question is, in these cases, how long should the bid request be?</p>
<p>Whenever I bid at a project, I think of a few questions to ask about the client&#8217;s requirements, and comment on those questions, make suggestions etc.<br />
But often that backfires, as I go to comment on the questions, I go on and on and the comments are pretty big. Hence, the bid request gets about 1-2 pages long.</p>
<p>Do you think writing long bid requests at the first correspondence is a good thing, or a bad thing?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: VeraciTek</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7074</link>
		<dc:creator>VeraciTek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your 1 in 10 estimate is almost exacly what we've experienced at www.veracitek.com. Not to mention they seldom begin as soon as we hope. Even clients who are in a "big hurry" seem to be fine with waiting around for 6 weeks or more to approve the project. Then, of course, once they decide to go they are in a hurry again. Go figure.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your 1 in 10 estimate is almost exacly what we&#8217;ve experienced at <a href="http://www.veracitek.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.veracitek.com</a>. Not to mention they seldom begin as soon as we hope. Even clients who are in a &#8220;big hurry&#8221; seem to be fine with waiting around for 6 weeks or more to approve the project. Then, of course, once they decide to go they are in a hurry again. Go figure.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: aneitlich</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/05/27/do-you-suffer-from-kakorrhaphiophobia/#comment-7075</link>
		<dc:creator>aneitlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Digitman,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can only answer for me. When I post a job on those sites, I ask for two things:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. Specific URLs developed/designed by the bidder.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2. Their thinking on how they will approach the job (e.g. development platform).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Inevitably I get these types of responses:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. Those that "answer the mail" with answers to questions that I asked but aren't right for what I want.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2. Those that don't even bother to answer my questions, and/or who post a generic portfolio so I have to do the work of sorting through their work to find potential sites that are relevant. It's remarkable how many people there are who do that!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3. Those that answer the mail and might be right for what I want. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The third category is who I contact for more info. I am a bit analytical, and like to go back and forth. But I also like concise answers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The problem with bidding sites is you never know how serious a client really is. So my advice is to start by being brief and showing how you can meet their requirements.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then, if they get back to you, concisely answer their questions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frankly, the odds of winning any single bid on these sites is pretty low. Those that get my business typically only do so after a phone call, after presenting excellent references/sites, and after a good proposal (for larger jobs).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So that gets to another thought: Learn the fundamentals of trust- and value-based marketing so that these sites become only a small part of how you get business. Get most of your business by being a visible thought leader, referrals, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Best,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Andrew&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digitman,</p>
<p>I can only answer for me. When I post a job on those sites, I ask for two things:</p>
<p>1. Specific URLs developed/designed by the bidder.</p>
<p>2. Their thinking on how they will approach the job (e.g. development platform).</p>
<p>Inevitably I get these types of responses:</p>
<p>1. Those that &#8220;answer the mail&#8221; with answers to questions that I asked but aren&#8217;t right for what I want.</p>
<p>2. Those that don&#8217;t even bother to answer my questions, and/or who post a generic portfolio so I have to do the work of sorting through their work to find potential sites that are relevant. It&#8217;s remarkable how many people there are who do that!</p>
<p>3. Those that answer the mail and might be right for what I want. </p>
<p>The third category is who I contact for more info. I am a bit analytical, and like to go back and forth. But I also like concise answers.</p>
<p>The problem with bidding sites is you never know how serious a client really is. So my advice is to start by being brief and showing how you can meet their requirements.</p>
<p>Then, if they get back to you, concisely answer their questions.</p>
<p>Frankly, the odds of winning any single bid on these sites is pretty low. Those that get my business typically only do so after a phone call, after presenting excellent references/sites, and after a good proposal (for larger jobs).</p>
<p>So that gets to another thought: Learn the fundamentals of trust- and value-based marketing so that these sites become only a small part of how you get business. Get most of your business by being a visible thought leader, referrals, etc.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Andrew</p>]]></content:encoded>
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