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		<title>By: john kerry</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/04/22/just-what-are-we-optimizing-anyway/#comment-42311</link>
		<dc:creator>john kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We provides high quality cng,lpg kits.</description>
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		<title>By: type0</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/04/22/just-what-are-we-optimizing-anyway/#comment-5390</link>
		<dc:creator>type0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the links and post.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I bought the book and signed up for the newsletters. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Conversion is really the whole point isn't it?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the links and post.  </p>
<p>I bought the book and signed up for the newsletters. </p>
<p>Conversion is really the whole point isn&#8217;t it?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kadence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kadence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think you can learn more from examples of effectively converting sites than from books. However data on how different sites convert is almost impossible to find.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can learn more from examples of effectively converting sites than from books. However data on how different sites convert is almost impossible to find.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/04/22/just-what-are-we-optimizing-anyway/#comment-5392</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the kind referral Dan. The point you make about our search optimization "the way they have done it can create crawlability and duplicate content issues for search engines." &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You're right but I thought I best expand on this point. We measured the search engines and found that 2 variables in a URL are spidered equally as well as an html page name. &lt;br /&gt;
So in effect page.php?PageID=36&#038;tracking=article_about_search_engines works as well as;&lt;br /&gt;
article_about_search_engines.html when you talk about spidering. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you use 3 variables we found that spiders tended to ignore the link more often. For the record every one of our articles is ranked on Google. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our problem now is irrelevant traffic from engines because of the wide variations of quotes and analogies in the articles. So we know our visibility is good, but in our case the problem you described wasn't an issue. We stick to 2 variables throughout the URL's in most cases (3 on 5 or 6 URL's). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We are going to change the way we name pages, using mod.rewrite on apache to generate a better name for each page. I would add that from an SEO perspective;&lt;br /&gt;
article_about_search_engines.html is more likely to get a higher listing than our pages named like they are for the keywords in the URL. This is the main reason we're changing the way we name pages, not because of spidering or content issues. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind referral Dan. The point you make about our search optimization &#8220;the way they have done it can create crawlability and duplicate content issues for search engines.&#8221; </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right but I thought I best expand on this point. We measured the search engines and found that 2 variables in a URL are spidered equally as well as an html page name. <br />
So in effect page.php?PageID=36&#038;tracking=article_about_search_engines works as well as;<br />
article_about_search_engines.html when you talk about spidering. </p>
<p>When you use 3 variables we found that spiders tended to ignore the link more often. For the record every one of our articles is ranked on Google. </p>
<p>Our problem now is irrelevant traffic from engines because of the wide variations of quotes and analogies in the articles. So we know our visibility is good, but in our case the problem you described wasn&#8217;t an issue. We stick to 2 variables throughout the URL&#8217;s in most cases (3 on 5 or 6 URL&#8217;s). </p>
<p>We are going to change the way we name pages, using mod.rewrite on apache to generate a better name for each page. I would add that from an SEO perspective;<br />
article_about_search_engines.html is more likely to get a higher listing than our pages named like they are for the keywords in the URL. This is the main reason we&#8217;re changing the way we name pages, not because of spidering or content issues. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bwarrene</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/04/22/just-what-are-we-optimizing-anyway/#comment-5393</link>
		<dc:creator>bwarrene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great reminder that conversions lead to dollars and massive traffic does not necessarily lead to the same unless purely an ad driven site. Even then - the volume of ads required is substantial to cash fill a business. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reminder that conversions lead to dollars and massive traffic does not necessarily lead to the same unless purely an ad driven site. Even then - the volume of ads required is substantial to cash fill a business. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/04/22/just-what-are-we-optimizing-anyway/#comment-5394</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another amazing book I have just begun reading on the subject of conversion from Bryan and Jeff Eisenberg. Call to action (http://www.calltoactionbook.com/)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The real difference with these guys is not just that the know SEO and SEM, it's that they understand that developing personas is crucial to the whole persuasion process. SEO and SEM keywords stem from the development of persona.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another amazing book I have just begun reading on the subject of conversion from Bryan and Jeff Eisenberg. Call to action (http://www.calltoactionbook.com/)</p>
<p>The real difference with these guys is not just that the know SEO and SEM, it&#8217;s that they understand that developing personas is crucial to the whole persuasion process. SEO and SEM keywords stem from the development of persona.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nerveman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Always good to remember the main objective... money, money, and more money!  All I have to do now is find the time to implement all this advice!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always good to remember the main objective&#8230; money, money, and more money!  All I have to do now is find the time to implement all this advice!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mhdoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhdoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice to see some advice other than targeting popular keywords.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: SRTech</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/04/22/just-what-are-we-optimizing-anyway/#comment-5397</link>
		<dc:creator>SRTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
There's a better way to implement this kind of tracking; the way they have done it can create crawlability and duplicate content issues for search engines.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can you post your better way? I have been trying to figure out how to track links without hurting SEO and would love to know how I should do it.&lt;/p&gt;

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There&#8217;s a better way to implement this kind of tracking; the way they have done it can create crawlability and duplicate content issues for search engines.</p>
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</p><p>Can you post your better way? I have been trying to figure out how to track links without hurting SEO and would love to know how I should do it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: craig34</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/04/22/just-what-are-we-optimizing-anyway/#comment-5398</link>
		<dc:creator>craig34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'm with SRTech, I'd love to see some information on how to accomplish this task better.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with SRTech, I&#8217;d love to see some information on how to accomplish this task better.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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