<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Simple Clearing of Floats</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/</link>
	<description></description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Sebastien</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-802992</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-802992</guid>
		<description>Wonderful trick, thanks a lot!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful trick, thanks a lot!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rami</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-790793</link>
		<dc:creator>Rami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-790793</guid>
		<description>the answer is simple, just use main wrappers, and wrap you divs carefully, i use main wrapper to wrap the header for example and the sub wrapper, and i use the sub wrapper to wrap the columns and the footer, it works 100% it's a bit tricks because you have to make sure the sub warper background color matches the main wrapper one and make sure the borders are not messed up :D in other words it floats my boat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the answer is simple, just use main wrappers, and wrap you divs carefully, i use main wrapper to wrap the header for example and the sub wrapper, and i use the sub wrapper to wrap the columns and the footer, it works 100% it&#8217;s a bit tricks because you have to make sure the sub warper background color matches the main wrapper one and make sure the borders are not messed up :D in other words it floats my boat</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lionel87</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-787875</link>
		<dc:creator>lionel87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-787875</guid>
		<description>I found a ?new? solution for clearing floated divs in IE (all versions)

&lt;code&gt;div { width: 100% }&lt;/code&gt;

since all divs are 100% width by default, this looks fine for me.

to achive the same result on firefox, im using the old way (overflow:hidden/auto) with conditional comments to keep the source cleaner for IE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a ?new? solution for clearing floated divs in IE (all versions)</p>
<code>div { width: 100% }</code>
<p>since all divs are 100% width by default, this looks fine for me.</p>
<p>to achive the same result on firefox, im using the old way (overflow:hidden/auto) with conditional comments to keep the source cleaner for IE</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Noparanoia</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-786857</link>
		<dc:creator>Noparanoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-786857</guid>
		<description>Oh GOD, thanks you, I was using spacers for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh GOD, thanks you, I was using spacers for years.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ezt</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-781475</link>
		<dc:creator>ezt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-781475</guid>
		<description>another site which has a good explanation of the same thing:
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html

I like to note that it's not a 100% css solution, even though some people may think that(?). Sometimes you need to ADD a wrapping div in the html code, because it's not always there already! Not that it's a problem, besides i don't believe in 100% css solutions anyway. To me, structure(html) and css go together. The layout of the page follows (or should follow) the structure of the html. This means i use floats instead of position:absolute. A page flow with a lot of positioning, seems to be less accessible/readible for blind people and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another site which has a good explanation of the same thing:<br />
<a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html</a></p>
<p>I like to note that it&#8217;s not a 100% css solution, even though some people may think that(?). Sometimes you need to ADD a wrapping div in the html code, because it&#8217;s not always there already! Not that it&#8217;s a problem, besides i don&#8217;t believe in 100% css solutions anyway. To me, structure(html) and css go together. The layout of the page follows (or should follow) the structure of the html. This means i use floats instead of position:absolute. A page flow with a lot of positioning, seems to be less accessible/readible for blind people and such.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ricardo Zea</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-778416</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo Zea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-778416</guid>
		<description>I don't know if anyone has noticed for more than 3 years, probably someone has mentioned it in a comment above somewhere and the author didn't read it or doesn't want to change it... but the demo and the actual quote about the solution say/use:

"... ‘&lt;strong&gt;overflow:auto&lt;/strong&gt;’ to the outer DIV did the trick."

And the current (8/11/08) CSS file uses &lt;strong&gt;overflow:hidden;&lt;/strong&gt; and it still works.


&lt;code&gt;#outer {
	background-color:#fff;
	overflow:hidden;
	padding-bottom:0px;
	width:100%;
	-moz-border-radius: 0 0 15px 0;
}&lt;/code&gt;

Both work, of course :), but I just wanted to point this out. It'd probably be good to update the CSS file then?

Bytes,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone has noticed for more than 3 years, probably someone has mentioned it in a comment above somewhere and the author didn&#8217;t read it or doesn&#8217;t want to change it&#8230; but the demo and the actual quote about the solution say/use:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; ‘<strong>overflow:auto</strong>’ to the outer DIV did the trick.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the current (8/11/08) CSS file uses <strong>overflow:hidden;</strong> and it still works.</p>
<code>#outer {
	background-color:#fff;
	overflow:hidden;
	padding-bottom:0px;
	width:100%;
	-moz-border-radius: 0 0 15px 0;
}</code>
<p>Both work, of course :), but I just wanted to point this out. It&#8217;d probably be good to update the CSS file then?</p>
<p>Bytes,</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: peach</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-776542</link>
		<dc:creator>peach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-776542</guid>
		<description>btw it wouldnt be smart to build a layout and start out putting overflow:auto on all containers... as the layout will grow in complexity you'll start to see scrollbars popping up allover the place, if you start using layout tools like out-of-flow positioning, negative margins etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw it wouldnt be smart to build a layout and start out putting overflow:auto on all containers&#8230; as the layout will grow in complexity you&#8217;ll start to see scrollbars popping up allover the place, if you start using layout tools like out-of-flow positioning, negative margins etc.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tenzin</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-775504</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-775504</guid>
		<description>hi rambohoho

You can't put all your content in topnav DIV with height of only 20px. Take everything out of TopNav DIV and correct our CSS. Nachher Ich schaue noch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi rambohoho</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t put all your content in topnav DIV with height of only 20px. Take everything out of TopNav DIV and correct our CSS. Nachher Ich schaue noch.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: rambohoho</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-775215</link>
		<dc:creator>rambohoho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-775215</guid>
		<description>hi, I've spent tones of hours working on this  problem. but didn't find a way to come out yet. this is the page I'm working on. 
http://bmk-innovas.com/new/aktuelles.html

here 's the css page

http://bmk-innovas.com/new/bmk.css

I tried your resolution but then there will be scroll barr inside the white page. what I want is a scroll bar inside the window.

maybe you know the answer. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, I&#8217;ve spent tones of hours working on this  problem. but didn&#8217;t find a way to come out yet. this is the page I&#8217;m working on.<br />
<a href="http://bmk-innovas.com/new/aktuelles.html" rel="nofollow">http://bmk-innovas.com/new/aktuelles.html</a></p>
<p>here &#8217;s the css page</p>
<p><a href="http://bmk-innovas.com/new/bmk.css" rel="nofollow">http://bmk-innovas.com/new/bmk.css</a></p>
<p>I tried your resolution but then there will be scroll barr inside the white page. what I want is a scroll bar inside the window.</p>
<p>maybe you know the answer. :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Laura Lipizzan</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/#comment-773152</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Lipizzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-773152</guid>
		<description>I cannot believe that I have spent more than 16 hours online (about 8 of those hours at Mozilla sites) looking for a solution to this problem, and, finally, I came upon your site. 

Eureka !!! My Lipizzan.com site displays in Firefox now with its scrollbar. Before I used your solution, it was even difficult to scroll down with the Page Down key or the down arrow key. 

I used:  overflow: auto; height: 100%;

During all those 16 hours searching for a solution, it became known to me that my "home made" html from about 13 years ago (including subsequent, noncompliant tweaks) is totally outdated and not browser friendly to begin with. I do plan to redo the entire site in modern day standards for code . . . but, not right now. 

Anyway, you saved me. Thank you so much. I am going to put a link to your website on all of my websites. 

Do you take donations? I hope someone pays you for your intelligent, linear and brilliant analysis and solutions. 

And, if I may add more:

your very clearly and thoroughly written, easy to follow instructions, 

for both CODE-COMPLIANT NEWBIES and the 78-45-35 RPM-VINYL RECORD-TYPES*, 

with the the technical and gory details optional for the reader.

AAA+ to you !

Laura Wiener-Smolka
e m a i . . . . 
Lipizzan ^  hollinet  ^  com

* I'm one of the RPM type author/webmaster of 11 websites: 4 personal, 5 public agency/org, 2 commercial(the only ones I receive a few $ for -- ha ha).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe that I have spent more than 16 hours online (about 8 of those hours at Mozilla sites) looking for a solution to this problem, and, finally, I came upon your site. </p>
<p>Eureka !!! My Lipizzan.com site displays in Firefox now with its scrollbar. Before I used your solution, it was even difficult to scroll down with the Page Down key or the down arrow key. </p>
<p>I used:  overflow: auto; height: 100%;</p>
<p>During all those 16 hours searching for a solution, it became known to me that my &#8220;home made&#8221; html from about 13 years ago (including subsequent, noncompliant tweaks) is totally outdated and not browser friendly to begin with. I do plan to redo the entire site in modern day standards for code . . . but, not right now. </p>
<p>Anyway, you saved me. Thank you so much. I am going to put a link to your website on all of my websites. </p>
<p>Do you take donations? I hope someone pays you for your intelligent, linear and brilliant analysis and solutions. </p>
<p>And, if I may add more:</p>
<p>your very clearly and thoroughly written, easy to follow instructions, </p>
<p>for both CODE-COMPLIANT NEWBIES and the 78-45-35 RPM-VINYL RECORD-TYPES*, </p>
<p>with the the technical and gory details optional for the reader.</p>
<p>AAA+ to you !</p>
<p>Laura Wiener-Smolka<br />
e m a i . . . .<br />
Lipizzan ^  hollinet  ^  com</p>
<p>* I&#8217;m one of the RPM type author/webmaster of 11 websites: 4 personal, 5 public agency/org, 2 commercial(the only ones I receive a few $ for &#8212; ha ha).</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
