Comments on: 2005: The year of the DOM http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:11:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: arkitrave :: architecture, web design, and stuff » CSS background images: content or presentation? http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-10289 arkitrave :: architecture, web design, and stuff » CSS background images: content or presentation? Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:30:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-10289 [...] From a philosophical, separation-of-content-presentation-behavior viewpoint, is the CSS background image a piece of content inside a style sheet, which should be presentation only? [...] […] From a philosophical, separation-of-content-presentation-behavior viewpoint, is the CSS background image a piece of content inside a style sheet, which should be presentation only? […]

]]> By: mmj http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3649 mmj Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:23:54 +0000 1692762611#comment-3649 <p>In a previous blog entry, a commenter asked why XMLHttpRequest was any better than using a hidden iframe (or script) element ashas been available for years, and I would like to reinterate this question. XMLHttpRequest is a proprietary extension to JavaScript that was implemented first by Microsoft and is now available on recent Mozilla browsers (and some versions of Safari, I believe). It is less well supported than the former methods, and it works slightly differently between Microsoft and Mozilla's implementation. Its main benefit is the 'synchronous' mode, though I personally prefer the 'asynchonous' mode, as it does not stop the other behaviours of the page while something is loading.</p> <p>Is there any indication that XMLHttpRequest is here to stay, and is going to be included (in its present form) in any public standard? It seems that the <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-LS-20040407/" rel="nofollow">level 3 DOM</a> specification has chosen a different path with its Load and Save specification.</p> In a previous blog entry, a commenter asked why XMLHttpRequest was any better than using a hidden iframe (or script) element ashas been available for years, and I would like to reinterate this question. XMLHttpRequest is a proprietary extension to JavaScript that was implemented first by Microsoft and is now available on recent Mozilla browsers (and some versions of Safari, I believe). It is less well supported than the former methods, and it works slightly differently between Microsoft and Mozilla’s implementation. Its main benefit is the ’synchronous’ mode, though I personally prefer the ‘asynchonous’ mode, as it does not stop the other behaviours of the page while something is loading.

Is there any indication that XMLHttpRequest is here to stay, and is going to be included (in its present form) in any public standard? It seems that the level 3 DOM specification has chosen a different path with its Load and Save specification.

]]> By: cejua http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3637 cejua Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3637 <p>The XmlHttpRequest object has been available for some time now in IE and its great to see it's use in todays standards compliant browsers. </p> <p>As a sidenote - its interesting to see how ASP.NET 2.0 has the process of using XmlHttpRequest to quietly update a web page built in.</p> <p>If anyone is interested this article fully describes 'ASP.NET 2.0 Script Callbacks':</p> <p>http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/08/CuttingEdge/</p> <p><br /> </p> The XmlHttpRequest object has been available for some time now in IE and its great to see it’s use in todays standards compliant browsers.

As a sidenote - its interesting to see how ASP.NET 2.0 has the process of using XmlHttpRequest to quietly update a web page built in.

If anyone is interested this article fully describes ‘ASP.NET 2.0 Script Callbacks’:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/08/CuttingEdge/

]]> By: vgarcia http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3638 vgarcia Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3638 <p>I agree that we'll see cool uses of the DOM and XmlHttpRequest this year. I don't think accessibility will suffer too much when creating these scripts among those who care about it, but the real issue is getting those who didn't care about it in the first place to take notice and fix their scripts.</p> I agree that we’ll see cool uses of the DOM and XmlHttpRequest this year. I don’t think accessibility will suffer too much when creating these scripts among those who care about it, but the real issue is getting those who didn’t care about it in the first place to take notice and fix their scripts.

]]> By: Dante Evans http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3639 Dante Evans Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3639 <p>There are 3 things that are going to be huge in 2005, and one of them is XMLHttpRequest (the other two are del.icio.us and WordPress). XMLHTTPRequest allows for interaction between del.icio.us and the client browser, and this is something I think we'll see a lot of this year. </p> There are 3 things that are going to be huge in 2005, and one of them is XMLHttpRequest (the other two are del.icio.us and WordPress). XMLHTTPRequest allows for interaction between del.icio.us and the client browser, and this is something I think we’ll see a lot of this year.

]]> By: WebCrawler http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3640 WebCrawler Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3640 <p>I wonder, can we use serverside sessions with XMLHttpRequest ?</p> I wonder, can we use serverside sessions with XMLHttpRequest ?

]]> By: Skunk http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3641 Skunk Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3641 <p>If by servserside sessions you mean maintaining a session for a user then yes, absolutely - the content retrieved by XMLHttpRequest is usually dynamically generated on the server, and can hence be customised based on the user's cookie (or even a session identifier passed in the URL).</p> If by servserside sessions you mean maintaining a session for a user then yes, absolutely - the content retrieved by XMLHttpRequest is usually dynamically generated on the server, and can hence be customised based on the user’s cookie (or even a session identifier passed in the URL).

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3642 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3642 <p>Look at this software http://www.innuvo.com/. You can write all your code in Java which is complied into javascript. It makes programming dynamic javascript much easier.</p> Look at this software http://www.innuvo.com/. You can write all your code in Java which is complied into javascript. It makes programming dynamic javascript much easier.

]]> By: Skunk http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3643 Skunk Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3643 <p>Innuvo looks terrible: their main site doesn't even load in Safari (you get a blank page instead) and it appears to generate web applications that are completely useless if you don't have JavaScript - an accessibility nightmare! "Your browser currently has JavaScript disabled. Please enable JavaScript to properly view this application." isn't the kind of dynamic web application future I'm looking forward to.</p> Innuvo looks terrible: their main site doesn’t even load in Safari (you get a blank page instead) and it appears to generate web applications that are completely useless if you don’t have JavaScript - an accessibility nightmare! “Your browser currently has JavaScript disabled. Please enable JavaScript to properly view this application.” isn’t the kind of dynamic web application future I’m looking forward to.

]]> By: ant1832 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/01/05/2005-the-year-of-the-dom/#comment-3644 ant1832 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1692762611#comment-3644 <p>I've been using xmlhttprequest in all of my latest projects. I have to agree that this is going to be really hot in 05.</p> I’ve been using xmlhttprequest in all of my latest projects. I have to agree that this is going to be really hot in 05.

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