Comments on: Eyein’ Orion

By: _dreamer_

_dreamer_ — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

people say that the usage of EJBs is about to expire in a little time period. any ideas?

By: bobo the wonder donkey

bobo the wonder donkey — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

have you checked out
http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty/
?

It’s small, fast and well-documented.
Your linux-related issue remains though.

By: hurricane_sh

hurricane_sh — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

What's wrong with Tomcat? The configuation in 2000 needs two lines of code:
JAVA_HOME=
TOMCAT_HOME=

I think it's pretty good for both test and production system, by cooperating with an EJB server like JBoss, it's helpful to understand the whole image, locating the errors, a clear 3-layer system.
Just my 2 cents.

By: bwarrene

bwarrene — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

It does take some getting used to configuring Tomcat - more importantly though - I would like to see a simpler management tool to integrate with Apache. It can be challenging to do what seems to be a straighforward process.

By: Nerveman

Nerveman — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

So what’s ServletExec from New Atlanta? Is it an option, or am I way off track! (complete Java newbie here…)

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

Kevin,

Has Caucho's licensing just recently changed? Last time I used it (around April this year), it was free for personal use.

By: Orion User

Orion User — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

>>"You can't actually deploy a Web application [in Orion] ... without first taking the time to learn how to wrap them inside a J2EE application"<<

Orion has a default app. All you need to do is to configure your web app as being part of the default app, and then configure the web-site.

1) In application.xml, add a line:

2) In default-web-site.xml, add the line:

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

You don’t need ‘full’ root access to the entire box. Your system admin can use tools like jail to provide your program root access to it can listen on port 80, but segregate your process from the rest of the running system.

I don’t remember if Linux has a jail-type command, but it is available on the BSDs.

By: Orion User

Orion User — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

>>”Orion doesn’t have a native wrapper, nor does it have a Tomcat-like mechanism for hiding inside a native server like Apache. As a result–and someone correct me if I’m wrong, here–you’d need to grant the server full root privileges on a Linux system before it could listen on Port 80.”

1) It is not obvious that running Apache as root is any less dangerous than running Orion as root. (Orion’s strength is that it is little-known. OTOH, being Java-based, its weakness is that it cannot do a setuid().)

2) One can run Apache as a front-end to Orion (and to most other servers) by Proxying from Apache to the port on which the server is listening. Apache will let you configure it so that, for instance, http://www.mysite.com is forwarded to port 8080.

This is not as good as having a mod_jk, but it is used all the time.