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		<title>By: guideseeq</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-813818</link>
		<dc:creator>guideseeq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People tell a lot of good about JBoss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People tell a lot of good about JBoss.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SitePoint Blogs &#187; Tomcat sucks&#8230; Is Apache Flawed?</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-18787</link>
		<dc:creator>SitePoint Blogs &#187; Tomcat sucks&#8230; Is Apache Flawed?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tomcat, of course, provides the reference implementations for the Servlet and JSP specifications, but by virtue of the fact that it is free, it&#8217;s also the server of choice for many small-to-medium businesses. I took a critical look at Tomcat myself awhile back, while looking for a beginner-friendly Java web application server (I&#8217;m still looking). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tomcat, of course, provides the reference implementations for the Servlet and JSP specifications, but by virtue of the fact that it is free, it&#8217;s also the server of choice for many small-to-medium businesses. I took a critical look at Tomcat myself awhile back, while looking for a beginner-friendly Java web application server (I&#8217;m still looking). [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: tomz</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4307</link>
		<dc:creator>tomz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;http://www.tagtraum.com/ is a possibility worth looking into.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.tagtraum.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tagtraum.com/</a> is a possibility worth looking into.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bwarrene</title>
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		<dc:creator>bwarrene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So very relevant.  This is a black hole in the Java world. I do love Tomcat and its capabilities - but it would be great if the configuration were simplified a bit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps a new third party management engine gui (or improvements to the included Tomcat management web gui) would make adoption less painful and ease the strain on those entering the world of Java app development and app servers.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very relevant.  This is a black hole in the Java world. I do love Tomcat and its capabilities &#8211; but it would be great if the configuration were simplified a bit.</p>
<p>Perhaps a new third party management engine gui (or improvements to the included Tomcat management web gui) would make adoption less painful and ease the strain on those entering the world of Java app development and app servers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cholmon</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4309</link>
		<dc:creator>cholmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What are you thoughts on JBoss as far as ease of configuration goes?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you thoughts on JBoss as far as ease of configuration goes?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Octal</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4310</link>
		<dc:creator>Octal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do love Tomcat and its capabilities - but it would be great if the configuration were simplified a bit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Agreed apart from the last word, should be &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; ;)&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I do love Tomcat and its capabilities &#8211; but it would be great if the configuration were simplified a bit.</p>
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</p><p>Agreed apart from the last word, should be <i>lot</i> ;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevin Yank</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4311</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Yank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[QUOTE=cholmon]What are you thoughts on JBoss as far as ease of configuration goes?[/QUOTE]JBoss and Tomcat together provide what the other application servers each provide alone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;JBoss itself relies on Tomcat to provide its JSP and Servlet processing, and conversely if you want to host a Java Web Application on Tomcat that uses Enterprise JavaBeans (EJBs), you&#039;ll want to look at using JBoss.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although I have precious little experience with JBoss, my impression is that it&#039;s cut from the same cloth as Tomcat: powerful and free, but not at all beginner-friendly.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[QUOTE=cholmon]What are you thoughts on JBoss as far as ease of configuration goes?[/QUOTE]JBoss and Tomcat together provide what the other application servers each provide alone.</p>
<p>JBoss itself relies on Tomcat to provide its JSP and Servlet processing, and conversely if you want to host a Java Web Application on Tomcat that uses Enterprise JavaBeans (EJBs), you&#8217;ll want to look at using JBoss.</p>
<p>Although I have precious little experience with JBoss, my impression is that it&#8217;s cut from the same cloth as Tomcat: powerful and free, but not at all beginner-friendly.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike Borozdin</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4312</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Borozdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would say that if you use NetBeans (www.netbeans.org) you have a bundled version of Tomcat there that you don&#039;t have to configure unless you need something special.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that if you use NetBeans (www.netbeans.org) you have a bundled version of Tomcat there that you don&#8217;t have to configure unless you need something special.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rushiku</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4313</link>
		<dc:creator>rushiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve only ever used Tomcat, so please excuse my naivety.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What exactly is so difficult about browse-to-war &gt; deploy?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only ever used Tomcat, so please excuse my naivety.</p>
<p>What exactly is so difficult about browse-to-war > deploy?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: blufive</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/10/22/in-search-of-a-beginner-friendly-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4314</link>
		<dc:creator>blufive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The tomcat documentation has improved a *lot* with version 5, and it&#039;s gotten much easier to set up and get going from scratch, too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From my experience, I&#039;d recommend against BEA Weblogic for beginners wanting to play around with a few lightweight servlets/JSP on a single workstation - it&#039;s big, it&#039;s high-powered, it&#039;s industrial, it&#039;s got far too many bells and whistles.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As you mention, there&#039;s the toolkit stuff, too, which has always looked to me like a way to tempt users (especially beginners) off into proprietary-extension land.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tomcat documentation has improved a *lot* with version 5, and it&#8217;s gotten much easier to set up and get going from scratch, too.</p>
<p>From my experience, I&#8217;d recommend against BEA Weblogic for beginners wanting to play around with a few lightweight servlets/JSP on a single workstation &#8211; it&#8217;s big, it&#8217;s high-powered, it&#8217;s industrial, it&#8217;s got far too many bells and whistles.</p>
<p>As you mention, there&#8217;s the toolkit stuff, too, which has always looked to me like a way to tempt users (especially beginners) off into proprietary-extension land.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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