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		<title>By: RockyShark</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5856</link>
		<dc:creator>RockyShark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mine's probably N/A at the moment - but I'm lucky to have quite a few clients who refer lots of business.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One thing I am about to do is this: I've been asked to quote on a website for an association that looks after part of a market that I'm targetting. I think I'll include with their proposal, that if any of their members want a website done, and enquire via the association's office, I'll pay the association a referral fee and give the member a small discount. To me, it's cheap marketing (the association does it for me), the new customer gets a small discount, and the association get a few dollars for doing not very much! I figure that's win/win/win. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I should even pen a small article for their next newsletter to coincide with the new website's launch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There's my next 'pull' strategy...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine&#8217;s probably N/A at the moment - but I&#8217;m lucky to have quite a few clients who refer lots of business.</p>
<p>One thing I am about to do is this: I&#8217;ve been asked to quote on a website for an association that looks after part of a market that I&#8217;m targetting. I think I&#8217;ll include with their proposal, that if any of their members want a website done, and enquire via the association&#8217;s office, I&#8217;ll pay the association a referral fee and give the member a small discount. To me, it&#8217;s cheap marketing (the association does it for me), the new customer gets a small discount, and the association get a few dollars for doing not very much! I figure that&#8217;s win/win/win. </p>
<p>I should even pen a small article for their next newsletter to coincide with the new website&#8217;s launch.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s my next &#8216;pull&#8217; strategy&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: drakke</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5857</link>
		<dc:creator>drakke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As you said, when you are just starting out and cash is short then a 'push' strategy may be best. &lt;br /&gt;
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I'm targeting a relatively underserved market. Because the market is narrow, I'm tailoring the products/services to directly address this particular segment. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My hope is that the prospects recognize that I have takes the time to invest in their concerns and will reward me by listening to my pitch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This direct marketing technique will require more time that I would like so eventually the plan is to switch to a mostly 'pull' method once I am established.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you said, when you are just starting out and cash is short then a &#8216;push&#8217; strategy may be best. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m targeting a relatively underserved market. Because the market is narrow, I&#8217;m tailoring the products/services to directly address this particular segment. </p>
<p>My hope is that the prospects recognize that I have takes the time to invest in their concerns and will reward me by listening to my pitch.</p>
<p>This direct marketing technique will require more time that I would like so eventually the plan is to switch to a mostly &#8216;pull&#8217; method once I am established.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: creativearc</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5858</link>
		<dc:creator>creativearc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mainly pull with a little bit of push, which is my monthly print newsletter. (but even that is on the 'pull' side, because I try to keep it mainly informative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jobs tend to come my way out of the blue, which I think is a result of 'pull' marketing. Sometimes I wish it were more predictable, but I don't complain when the work is there!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Paul&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mainly pull with a little bit of push, which is my monthly print newsletter. (but even that is on the &#8216;pull&#8217; side, because I try to keep it mainly informative.</p>
<p>Jobs tend to come my way out of the blue, which I think is a result of &#8216;pull&#8217; marketing. Sometimes I wish it were more predictable, but I don&#8217;t complain when the work is there!</p>
<p>Paul</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: worchyld</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5859</link>
		<dc:creator>worchyld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are there other excellent business blogs like this on the web that people can suggest?  I'm trying to broaden my knowledge as much as I can with ideas.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there other excellent business blogs like this on the web that people can suggest?  I&#8217;m trying to broaden my knowledge as much as I can with ideas.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dano</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5860</link>
		<dc:creator>Dano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;drakke:&lt;br /&gt;
"when you are just starting out and cash is short then a 'push' strategy may be best"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I dont think so. Its documented that, for launching new products/services/companies, pull is most effective. Im on it. The problem is (always the same) TIME.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Push technic is better to maintain a consolidated position.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What about me?&lt;br /&gt;
At my daughter school there is an annual expo: any october parents of any student that have a business may have a place to show their products. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think thats a good oppotunity to speak to them. Im working on it. I will talk about ... yes: about Pull Marketing and advantages of persuasive communication for sites.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drakke:<br />
&#8220;when you are just starting out and cash is short then a &#8216;push&#8217; strategy may be best&#8221;</p>
<p>I dont think so. Its documented that, for launching new products/services/companies, pull is most effective. Im on it. The problem is (always the same) TIME.</p>
<p>Push technic is better to maintain a consolidated position.</p>
<p>What about me?<br />
At my daughter school there is an annual expo: any october parents of any student that have a business may have a place to show their products. </p>
<p>I think thats a good oppotunity to speak to them. Im working on it. I will talk about &#8230; yes: about Pull Marketing and advantages of persuasive communication for sites.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DavyT</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5861</link>
		<dc:creator>DavyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I recently scored a several thousand dollar project from a client who had seen an example site of ours posted on the software suppliers' home page.  Coupled with tips from Brendon's articles, we are in the middle of their project.  Pull markrting is the only way to go.  I have never advertised anywhere else.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently scored a several thousand dollar project from a client who had seen an example site of ours posted on the software suppliers&#8217; home page.  Coupled with tips from Brendon&#8217;s articles, we are in the middle of their project.  Pull markrting is the only way to go.  I have never advertised anywhere else.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: aneitlich</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5862</link>
		<dc:creator>aneitlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DavyT:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I write my heart out 3 times a week and you reference Brendon's articles on this blog? His stuff is fantastic, but what am I, chopped liver? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hurt,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Andrew&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavyT:</p>
<p>I write my heart out 3 times a week and you reference Brendon&#8217;s articles on this blog? His stuff is fantastic, but what am I, chopped liver? </p>
<p>Hurt,</p>
<p>Andrew</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ltmod</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5863</link>
		<dc:creator>ltmod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have an interesting system in place.  Could be considered Pull and Push marketing combined.  Here's what I do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For several years now I've been working with 4 people who were initially clients.  These guys were so happy with what I did for them, that they took the step of recommending me one notch higher.  They actually commit people to web sites.  They gather all the requirements, deal with their customers directly. Then they call me, and get a price from me for the work.  Past that its up to them to make sure all of the requirements are met.  They get paid (usually double of what I charge), and send me my share.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From my standpoint this works great, because I'm already used to working with these people and understand their quirks and input.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an interesting system in place.  Could be considered Pull and Push marketing combined.  Here&#8217;s what I do.</p>
<p>For several years now I&#8217;ve been working with 4 people who were initially clients.  These guys were so happy with what I did for them, that they took the step of recommending me one notch higher.  They actually commit people to web sites.  They gather all the requirements, deal with their customers directly. Then they call me, and get a price from me for the work.  Past that its up to them to make sure all of the requirements are met.  They get paid (usually double of what I charge), and send me my share.  </p>
<p>From my standpoint this works great, because I&#8217;m already used to working with these people and understand their quirks and input.  </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: transio</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5864</link>
		<dc:creator>transio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My company employes primarily push marketing, with a decent success rate.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have recently been looking for ways to establish some pull marketing for us.  I've personally gotten involved in standards committees for industries relevant to someo of our client base, and have been speaking to some of the more technicaly guys about establishing ourselves as "open source" leaders in some uncharted areas of electronic business to see if that oould lead to work there.  As a dry run, I created a single page info website, and got nibbles just from that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Recently, I have been trying to extend myself into the web design community a bit, too.  Although my company isn't a design company per se, we'll probably branch that way soon, so I'm trying to establish a basis there for the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In conclusion, my plot to take over the world is slowly taking form.  Muahahaha.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PS - Brendon who?  :)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company employes primarily push marketing, with a decent success rate.  </p>
<p>I have recently been looking for ways to establish some pull marketing for us.  I&#8217;ve personally gotten involved in standards committees for industries relevant to someo of our client base, and have been speaking to some of the more technicaly guys about establishing ourselves as &#8220;open source&#8221; leaders in some uncharted areas of electronic business to see if that oould lead to work there.  As a dry run, I created a single page info website, and got nibbles just from that.</p>
<p>Recently, I have been trying to extend myself into the web design community a bit, too.  Although my company isn&#8217;t a design company per se, we&#8217;ll probably branch that way soon, so I&#8217;m trying to establish a basis there for the future.</p>
<p>In conclusion, my plot to take over the world is slowly taking form.  Muahahaha.</p>
<p>PS - Brendon who?  :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RockyShark</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/08/04/is-your-marketing-push-pull-or-na/#comment-5865</link>
		<dc:creator>RockyShark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Itmod - you're happy for someone to mark your work up by 100%? I don't think I'd be happy with that. 100% commission is a hell of a lot for a salesperson, which is effectively what it sounds like they are.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BUT that's my 2 cents - if you're happy with it, that's all that really counts!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itmod - you&#8217;re happy for someone to mark your work up by 100%? I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be happy with that. 100% commission is a hell of a lot for a salesperson, which is effectively what it sounds like they are.</p>
<p>BUT that&#8217;s my 2 cents - if you&#8217;re happy with it, that&#8217;s all that really counts!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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