Comments on: Cool ColdFusion things… http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:48:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jason http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-52811 Jason Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:55:55 +0000 1741471936#comment-52811 What they do not support are Flash forms, cfgrid, cftree, and a few other tags. In an e-mail from their Tech support, they don't believe they will ever support Flash forms. While I haven't tested this, since they do support cfc files, it may be possible to run ColdFusion Flash Remoting for Flex, through Coral instead of buying a ColdFusion Enterprise license for Flex. I'd be curious if anyone has tried or knows. What they do not support are Flash forms, cfgrid, cftree, and a few other tags. In an e-mail from their Tech support, they don’t believe they will ever support Flash forms.

While I haven’t tested this, since they do support cfc files, it may be possible to run ColdFusion Flash Remoting for Flex, through Coral instead of buying a ColdFusion Enterprise license for Flex. I’d be curious if anyone has tried or knows.

]]> By: Filippo Toso http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-28503 Filippo Toso Fri, 02 Jun 2006 11:10:47 +0000 1741471936#comment-28503 Take a look also to <a href="http://www.dwebpro.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dwebpro.com/</a>. It supports <a href="http://www.ignitefusion.com/" rel="nofollow">IgniteFusion engine</a> and can run from CD/DVD. It's prefect for creating demo version of CF web applications. Sincerely, Filippo Toso Take a look also to http://www.dwebpro.com/. It supports IgniteFusion engine and can run from CD/DVD. It’s prefect for creating demo version of CF web applications.

Sincerely,
Filippo Toso

]]> By: Nerveman http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-8083 Nerveman Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 1741471936#comment-8083 <p>So has anyone used CORAL yet? I wonder what the speed is like compared to CFMX.</p> So has anyone used CORAL yet? I wonder what the speed is like compared to CFMX.

]]> By: jonese http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-8084 jonese Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 1741471936#comment-8084 <p>Keep in mind that CORAL isn't supposed to be an replacement for a CF Server. It's just a way to run localized applications easily and cheaply :).... I'm trying to get a review copy as we speak so i can run it through it's paces and let everyone here know how it does.</p> Keep in mind that CORAL isn’t supposed to be an replacement for a CF Server. It’s just a way to run localized applications easily and cheaply :)…. I’m trying to get a review copy as we speak so i can run it through it’s paces and let everyone here know how it does.

]]> By: Tony http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-8085 Tony Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 1741471936#comment-8085 <p>Nice to see an article on this... noticed people talking about it on the BlueDragon mailing list. Very cool.</p> Nice to see an article on this… noticed people talking about it on the BlueDragon mailing list. Very cool.

]]> By: davidjmedlock http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-8086 davidjmedlock Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 1741471936#comment-8086 <p>From what I understand, BlueDragon and CORAL are very different. BlueDragon is an actual application server, designed to sit on top of IIS and run a <i>web application</i>. The only real advantage of BlueDragon is that if you only need certain functionality, you can get a version of the application server for free. I don't know what the performance metrics would indicate as to its speed.</p> <p>CORAL is designed to run <i>desktop applications</i> with the functionality of web applications. Personally, if you're going to build a desktop application, I'd eliminate the middle-man (CORAL) and use a language well suited for desktop apps (C#/VB.Net preferably...)</p> From what I understand, BlueDragon and CORAL are very different. BlueDragon is an actual application server, designed to sit on top of IIS and run a web application. The only real advantage of BlueDragon is that if you only need certain functionality, you can get a version of the application server for free. I don’t know what the performance metrics would indicate as to its speed.

CORAL is designed to run desktop applications with the functionality of web applications. Personally, if you’re going to build a desktop application, I’d eliminate the middle-man (CORAL) and use a language well suited for desktop apps (C#/VB.Net preferably…)

]]> By: charlie arehart http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-8087 charlie arehart Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 1741471936#comment-8087 <p>Folks, as CTO of New Atlanta, makers of BlueDragon, I was of course tickled to see this blog entry. Thanks, Eric. Yes, BlueDragon is at the heart of the "various software packages" he referred to.</p> <p>But as to the last comment, from David Medlock, I do want to offer clarification. BlueDragon is much more than just "an actual application server, designed to sit on top of IIS and run a web application".</p> <p>Indeed, that sounds like a confusion of a couple different things. We offer standalone versions (Server and Server JX, one of which is the free one), and those run on Windows, Linux, and OS X, with versions supporting IIS, Apache, iPlanet, and more. Then we also have the J2EE edition, which allows you to deploy CFML on top of a J2EE server. This is at the heart of what Dick Applebaum is doing with his "BD on a CD" project, which we certainly applaud and are supportting him in.</p> <p>I don't want to turn this comment thread into a sales pitch, but if I may I'd like to at least offer rebuttal to David's assertion that "the only real advantage of BlueDragon is that if you only need certain functionality, you can get a version of the application server for free." </p> <p>We do indeed offer many advantages, or else people wouldn't be buying our commercial versions. Please see http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/read/601768.htm for more info. I address his performance question there as well.</p> <p>Thanks for the opportunity to clarify these points.</p> Folks, as CTO of New Atlanta, makers of BlueDragon, I was of course tickled to see this blog entry. Thanks, Eric. Yes, BlueDragon is at the heart of the “various software packages” he referred to.

But as to the last comment, from David Medlock, I do want to offer clarification. BlueDragon is much more than just “an actual application server, designed to sit on top of IIS and run a web application”.

Indeed, that sounds like a confusion of a couple different things. We offer standalone versions (Server and Server JX, one of which is the free one), and those run on Windows, Linux, and OS X, with versions supporting IIS, Apache, iPlanet, and more. Then we also have the J2EE edition, which allows you to deploy CFML on top of a J2EE server. This is at the heart of what Dick Applebaum is doing with his “BD on a CD” project, which we certainly applaud and are supportting him in.

I don’t want to turn this comment thread into a sales pitch, but if I may I’d like to at least offer rebuttal to David’s assertion that “the only real advantage of BlueDragon is that if you only need certain functionality, you can get a version of the application server for free.”

We do indeed offer many advantages, or else people wouldn’t be buying our commercial versions. Please see http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/read/601768.htm for more info. I address his performance question there as well.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify these points.

]]> By: jonese http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-8088 jonese Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 1741471936#comment-8088 <p>Rebuttals are good and we welcome comments from all sides of the fence :) I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot more about BD in upcoming articles I have planned.</p> Rebuttals are good and we welcome comments from all sides of the fence :) I’m sure we’ll be seeing a lot more about BD in upcoming articles I have planned.

]]> By: TomE http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/05/29/cool-coldfusion-things/comment-page-1/#comment-8089 TomE Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 1741471936#comment-8089 <p>Wow, no comments since June of 2004? One advantage that is making me look into Coral is that I have a CF application (ok, not completely done yet...) that I also have a VB front-end for. Coral eliminates the need to have 2 codebases. I can only eliminate so much redundant code moving logic to the backend, this would give me the opportunity to have the same front-end, also! I'm still investigating, so don't take this as an endorsement.</p> Wow, no comments since June of 2004? One advantage that is making me look into Coral is that I have a CF application (ok, not completely done yet…) that I also have a VB front-end for. Coral eliminates the need to have 2 codebases. I can only eliminate so much redundant code moving logic to the backend, this would give me the opportunity to have the same front-end, also! I’m still investigating, so don’t take this as an endorsement.

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