Comments on: Bookmarklets http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/04/09/bookmarklets/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:28:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: eSpider http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/04/09/bookmarklets/#comment-3420 eSpider Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 200443000#comment-3420 <p>I wonder who first ceated the bookmarklets...</p> I wonder who first ceated the bookmarklets…

]]> By: asp_funda http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/04/09/bookmarklets/#comment-3421 asp_funda Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 200443000#comment-3421 <p>Yeah, million dollar question!! Bookmarklets have been around for quite a while but who implemented them first? Any answers Simon? :D</p> Yeah, million dollar question!! Bookmarklets have been around for quite a while but who implemented them first? Any answers Simon? :D

]]> By: Dori Smith http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/04/09/bookmarklets/#comment-3422 Dori Smith Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 200443000#comment-3422 <p>I'm not Simon, but Steve Kangas over at bookmarklets.com says that <a href="http://www.bookmarklets.com/about/">the original idea came from Netscape</a>.</p> <p>Simon, I noticed that your article doesn't say anything about Safari. It can be worth pointing out that Safari has some oddities in how it handles bookmarklets (drat it!). <a href="http://www.macworld.com/2004/02/secrets/marchgeekfactor/">I wrote an article about Safari bookmarklets</a> in the March issue of Macworld magazine.</p> I’m not Simon, but Steve Kangas over at bookmarklets.com says that the original idea came from Netscape.

Simon, I noticed that your article doesn’t say anything about Safari. It can be worth pointing out that Safari has some oddities in how it handles bookmarklets (drat it!). I wrote an article about Safari bookmarklets in the March issue of Macworld magazine.

]]> By: Skunk http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/04/09/bookmarklets/#comment-3423 Skunk Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 200443000#comment-3423 <p>I haven't the slightest idea. www.bookmarklets.com is the first site I ever saw that popularised them, but I don't know if the author of the site "discovered" them. The real question is whether or not they were initially a deliberate browser feature. Did Netscape (I'm guessing NS was the first browser to support them as they created Javascript in the first place) deliberately allow bookmarks to contain Javascript, or was it a bug that was later cleverly exploited? I'd be interested to know the answer.</p> I haven’t the slightest idea. http://www.bookmarklets.com is the first site I ever saw that popularised them, but I don’t know if the author of the site “discovered” them. The real question is whether or not they were initially a deliberate browser feature. Did Netscape (I’m guessing NS was the first browser to support them as they created Javascript in the first place) deliberately allow bookmarks to contain Javascript, or was it a bug that was later cleverly exploited? I’d be interested to know the answer.

]]> By: Skunk http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/04/09/bookmarklets/#comment-3424 Skunk Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 200443000#comment-3424 <p>And here it is; I emailed Brendan Eich and asked him:</p> <p><blockquote><p>They were a deliberate feature in this sense: I invented the javascript: URL along with JavaScript in 1995, and intended that javascript: URLs could be used as any other kind of URL, including being bookmark-able.</p></blockquote></p> <p><blockquote><p>In particular, I made it possible to generate a new document by loading, e.g. javascript:'hello, world', but also (key for bookmarklets) to run arbitrary script against the DOM of the current document, e.g. javascript:alert(document.links[0].href). The difference is that the latter kind of URL use an expression that evaluates to the undefined type in JS. I added the void operator to JS before Netscape 2 shipped to make it easy to discard any non-undefined value in a javascript: URL.</p></blockquote></p> And here it is; I emailed Brendan Eich and asked him:

They were a deliberate feature in this sense: I invented the javascript: URL along with JavaScript in 1995, and intended that javascript: URLs could be used as any other kind of URL, including being bookmark-able.

In particular, I made it possible to generate a new document by loading, e.g. javascript:’hello, world’, but also (key for bookmarklets) to run arbitrary script against the DOM of the current document, e.g. javascript:alert(document.links[0].href). The difference is that the latter kind of URL use an expression that evaluates to the undefined type in JS. I added the void operator to JS before Netscape 2 shipped to make it easy to discard any non-undefined value in a javascript: URL.

]]> By: Skunk http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/04/09/bookmarklets/#comment-3425 Skunk Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 200443000#comment-3425 <p>That's odd - I could have sworn Dori's answer wasn't there when I posted my last two comments. I think it's because her comment was posted anonymously and went in to the moderation queue - by the time it had been moderated and appeared in its place on the thread I had posted two more responses.</p> That’s odd - I could have sworn Dori’s answer wasn’t there when I posted my last two comments. I think it’s because her comment was posted anonymously and went in to the moderation queue - by the time it had been moderated and appeared in its place on the thread I had posted two more responses.

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