Comments on: Python Server Pages http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:12:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Anonymous http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-13049 Anonymous Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:57:53 +0000 1118127937#comment-13049 spyce.sourceforge.net is the best implementation of Python server pages. spyce.sourceforge.net is the best implementation of Python server pages.

]]> By: yangce http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-11290 yangce Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:11:17 +0000 1118127937#comment-11290 is there anyone know perl server pages or ruby services pages? thanx is there anyone know perl server pages or ruby services pages?
thanx

]]> By: Tim Parkin http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-66 Tim Parkin Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-66 <p>Ah, the joy of Python.. as a PHP programmer who makes his living out of building PHP applications, I know the frustrations that can be had building systems in a language like PHP. The disadvantages of PHP have been documented many times so I won't go into them. I'll only say that I've been programming in PHP for a long time and I'm still being surprised by some behaviours. </p> <p>Python, on the other hand, just lets you get on with coding. I find I hardly ever have to refer to the manual to try to understand behaviour as in most cases things act like you would expect (which is one of the tenets of the language).</p> <p>I used to think that we'd still have to use a lot of PHP as people's service providers offer it and are unlikely to offer Python. However, we can now get dedicated servers for £20 per month and virtual root servers for £10 a month. The only big reason not to use Python now is availability of developers, but in my experience so far clients don't care what language their applications are developed in as long as it's (i) recognised as a 'legitimate' programming language , and python is one of the LAMP bunch. (ii) won't cost them any extra.</p> <p>If you can show them that Python will actually cost them less (speed of development is at least doubled in my experience) then they should jump at the opportunity. </p> <p>If you want to develop in Python, I suggest looking at Albatross (acts as a templating langauge) and Twisted/Nevow (Twisted is a http server system, amongst many other things, and Nevow is one of the most exciting templating frameworks I've seen). </p> <p>p.s. The majority of our web development is now done in Python</p> <p>Tim <a href="http://www.pollenation.net">Pollenation Internet Ltd</a></p> Ah, the joy of Python.. as a PHP programmer who makes his living out of building PHP applications, I know the frustrations that can be had building systems in a language like PHP. The disadvantages of PHP have been documented many times so I won’t go into them. I’ll only say that I’ve been programming in PHP for a long time and I’m still being surprised by some behaviours.

Python, on the other hand, just lets you get on with coding. I find I hardly ever have to refer to the manual to try to understand behaviour as in most cases things act like you would expect (which is one of the tenets of the language).

I used to think that we’d still have to use a lot of PHP as people’s service providers offer it and are unlikely to offer Python. However, we can now get dedicated servers for £20 per month and virtual root servers for £10 a month. The only big reason not to use Python now is availability of developers, but in my experience so far clients don’t care what language their applications are developed in as long as it’s (i) recognised as a ‘legitimate’ programming language , and python is one of the LAMP bunch. (ii) won’t cost them any extra.

If you can show them that Python will actually cost them less (speed of development is at least doubled in my experience) then they should jump at the opportunity.

If you want to develop in Python, I suggest looking at Albatross (acts as a templating langauge) and Twisted/Nevow (Twisted is a http server system, amongst many other things, and Nevow is one of the most exciting templating frameworks I’ve seen).

p.s. The majority of our web development is now done in Python

Tim Pollenation Internet Ltd

]]> By: Hannes Gassert http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-67 Hannes Gassert Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-67 <p>Greate last sentence!<br /> "Then fall, PHP!", to conclude your quotation :)</p> Greate last sentence!
“Then fall, PHP!”, to conclude your quotation :)

]]> By: alr http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-68 alr Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-68 <p>eeexxxellent smithers!</p> eeexxxellent smithers!

]]> By: ruach http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-69 ruach Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-69 <p>This IS great news ! and its about time. Personaly I love php for the web but I love python even more, just not for the web. If hosting companies began to support python and some good modules were developed to handle things like sessions, file uploads, cookies and the like I think that it could easily become the new king of the web. In do time of course. :')</p> <p>matthew<br /> elijah.chpc.utah.edu</p> This IS great news ! and its about time. Personaly I love php for the web but I love python even more, just not for the web. If hosting companies began to support python and some good modules were developed to handle things like sessions, file uploads, cookies and the like I think that it could easily become the new king of the web. In do time of course. :’)

matthew
elijah.chpc.utah.edu

]]> By: premshree http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-70 premshree Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-70 <p>Python is probably the simplest OOP language ever. I have programmed in PHP in the past; currently I've been <a href="http://www.qiksearch.com/python.htm">using Python</a> a lot, and <a href="http://premshree.resource-locator.com/python-seminar-210204/slides/pySlide1.jpg.htm">evangelize</a> its use.</p> Python is probably the simplest OOP language ever. I have programmed in PHP in the past; currently I’ve been using Python a lot, and evangelize its use.

]]> By: Gokul http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-71 Gokul Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-71 <p>Hi,<br /> I'd like some of u guys advice me..<br /> I've to design a course site manager 4 my university using any interface language.What wud u guys recommend??<br /> php or cgi( integrated with python) or ZOPE??plz reply soooon<br /> Thanx..</p> Hi,
I’d like some of u guys advice me..
I’ve to design a course site manager 4 my university using any interface language.What wud u guys recommend??
php or cgi( integrated with python) or ZOPE??plz reply soooon
Thanx..

]]> By: thanos http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-72 thanos Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-72 <p>use php (nocgi) since you'll be able to get started quickly.</p> use php (nocgi) since you’ll be able to get started quickly.

]]> By: Mary http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2004/02/29/python-server-pages/#comment-73 Mary Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 1118127937#comment-73 <p>Hi, what huppen with security on PSP? have problems of browsers??</p> Hi, what huppen with security on PSP? have problems of browsers??

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