I think she means that whether it appears on her page or not is not debatable/negotiable, not whether it’s debatable on SP.
But I agree with you, it’s useless information to the user and that is why you don’t see results code like that on sites who know what they are doing.
At the very least, useless information like that 2320 make the page look unprofessional, imho of course 
Wow.
When I want to leave a site, I want two things:
– confirmation that I’ve logged out
– the site to let me the hell alone and let me go where I want to go
I’ve had sites “p0rn storm” me with flurries of ad pages, popups, etc, and some sites that refuse to let me go unless I close the tab or, in some very irritating instances, close the browser entirely. Both practices irritate me to no end. It’s like the '90s practice of throwing interminable popups at you asking “Are you sure you want to leave this site?” “Are you REALLY sure?” “You might want to first consider…” and so forth. The first and foremost rule of the Web, as far as I’m concerned, is to respect the user. This stuff about “where do I want them to go after they log out” and “that information I present to them is non-negotiable” shows no concern whatsoever for what the user wants to do.
I won’t pretend to speak for SP or anyone else except my own crusty and hard-to-get-along-with self, but were I to receive that kind of treatment on your site or anyone else’s, I wouldn’t be back, no way, no how. Almost everything available on the Web can be found in a multiplicity of sources. Except for instances like corporate intranets and some isolated examples, no one needs to go to any specific site for any specific reason. They can always find another alternative. If a site treats them poorly, they will search for just that alternative.
I couldn’t agree with you any more!!
Debbie
If a user has a problem with my website, they have a point-of-reference. They could contact support and say, “When I do ____, I keep getting this 3926 error message…”
I hardly think a 4-digit code is an enormous burden for anyone to see…
Debbie
You could make that:
Status code: 2320
and it would look “interesting” enough for the geeks to accept it. 
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[QUOTE=itmitică;5145222]You could make that:
Status code: 2320
and it would look “interesting” enough for the geeks to accept it. ;)[/quote]
Yeah, but about the Ralph’s of the world?! 
(I left out the "Status code: " part for brevity, and because I thought the way I have it looks more unobtrusive.)
1.) Because he doesn’t like me…
2.) Because he likes to bring up things that were never said by the OP, and then he gets quite mad at the person for things that were never spoken… (Strange, huh?!)
Speaking from several bad experiences before.
Thanks itmitică
Debbie
But it’s a red herring that will most likely only confuse. Anyway, suit yourself.
Mike (Black Max) was merely giving examples of site owners choosing what to do with people who leave or log out, and indicating how user-unfriendly these can be. Seems quite on-topic to me.
[FONT=Verdana]And to me. He and I both feel the user should have control and the log-out process should be as swift and painless as possible. Nothing objectionable there, whether you agree with it or not.
Just because somebody has a different point of view does not mean they dislike you. On the other hand, posting personal remarks about another member is not only against forum policies, but a sure-fire way to make them dislike you. Let’s keep this debate on-topic and leave out the personal attacks.
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Well, to me it seems that Mike was awfully raged and way way way off topic. I’m pretty sure the thread so far was having a normal tone and moving in the right direction.
If he could’ve provided a real analogy with what the OP is asking about and with “the flurries of ad pages, popups, etc”, I would’ve taking it with a pinch of salt. No real examples, that means he’s just charging and ranting completely unrelated at the OP, which also happens to be a women. That’s a shame. She’s not to blame for Mike’s bad experiences and frustrations. Nobody is.
BTW, if I wanted to hear about Mike’s p0rn surfing frustrations, I would’ve ask him in a PM.
On the other hand, just because somebody has a different point of view does not mean it’s a personal attack.
[ot]Max didn’t specifically mean ‘adult sites’ he was generically contrasting a barrage of adverts (or pointless steps) being akin to the 90s where it seemed popups and pop-unders and auto-directs ruled were around every corner… Usually in those days it seemed the majority of those did want to advertise certain unrealistic promotions relating to body enhancement, etc.
Even today a lot of adverts for “free ebooks” or trial software can also send you down misleading paths and make you jump through hoops both before and after downloading the product. For example: if you are getting a free product, e.g. a ‘free ebook on HTML5’ why do you need a credit card number? Or several additional steps telling you can buy X,Y,Z books when you click logout after you have had to submit an email to get your download the trial licence key, etc.
That’s what he was meaning; I suspect some people misread it as if he was referring to dubious content or was in a grumpy mood.
I’d even guess if most people logged in here and then when clicking “Log out”; if they had to go through two pages of “buy our latest book” or product from our “sponsors” they’d probably get slightly irritated… That is the kind of things he was actually talking about.
Perhaps he didn’t choose the right words to begin the post with and paragraph two was slightly on a tangent but overall it was just stating the obvious of allowing the user to leave a site without being “excessively nagged” or unwontedly redirected after finishing their task.[/ot]
Are we gonna play this game for long?
I don’t like where this is going, so I’m going to stop here. But the way I see it, Mike owes us an apology for ruining a good thread. Unless somebody at SPF is missing on a certain outrageous tone in the threads.
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I don’t like where this is going, so I’m going to stop here.
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now there’s a good idea.
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Mike owes us an apology for ruining a good thread
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No he doesn’t
Yes, “The Other Mike”, your post and intervention is exactly the reason why I don’t like where this is going. Can I take 5 Part3 in your signature, to go, thank you.
Do you really feel your intervention was required? I don’t.
You can take what you like, wherever you like and do whatever you like with it bud.
Just out of interest, why does my post distress you so much?
It’s not distress, it’s my belief that too many have spoken for Mike already. He’s not a child, he can stand up on its own to what people believe of its posts.
But if you want to know, I really want to know why Mike feels distress about the simple log out page of the OP to qualify for a pointless rant. And allow me to have my own opinion about that and see it as a pointless and aggravating rant.
of course you can Mitică, everyone has an opinion - you have yours and I have mine.
Have I ever denied yours, Mike?
No need to take it personally if the OP thought vBulletin log out is lame, that’s all I’m saying. And it wouldn’t hurt to be more considerate of your users, especially the female ones. Put your for-the-moment frustrations aside when you make a technical comment. An Advisor, yes, a Gentleman, that too. Staff should set the tone for the users to follow.
[QUOTE=itmitică;5145638]Have I ever denied yours, Mike?[/QUOTE]
No, have yours ever been denied or repressed?
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No need to take it personally if the OP thought vBulletin log out is lame, that’s all I’m saying.
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um… ok… who took it personally?
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And it wouldn’t hurt to be more considerate of your users, especially the female ones.
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wtf?!
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Put your for-the-moment frustrations aside when you make a technical comment. [/quote]
Agreed
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An Advisor, yes, a Gentleman, that too. Staff should set the tone for the users to follow.[/QUOTE]
As we try and strive to do so in each and every reply. Your interpretation may differ from other readers and may not reflect the original intention of the post.
Right.
Going back to the subject. I gave it a lot of thought, thanks to Debbie.
I really stand by my initial thoughts: a “good bye, thank you for visiting, come back soon” page or a “news you may want to read after”, with a personal touch.
The user doesn’t have to feel like amidst ominous events, and this vBulletin’s page
is certain to make the user feel a little shaken, out of control, disoriented and feel like he’s at someone’s mercy.
I think a log out page is as important as a home page for the overall feel the user has about the website. It’s the same thing like with 404’s and the different approach for what seemed like an arid and blunt page.
A bit of relaxed approach goes a long way for the user. Here’s what I’m talking about, and if 404’s can do it, I believe log out can do it too:
http://blogof.francescomugnai.com/2008/08/the-100-most-funny-and-unusual-404-error-pages/
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/60-really-cool-and-creative-error-404-pages/
Certainly something to think about.
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The user doesn’t have to feel like amidst ominous events, and this vBulletin’s page
is certain to make the user feel a little shaken, out of control, disoriented and feel like he’s at someone’s mercy.
[/QUOTE]Just to be clear here, that isn’t the log-out page. (And it isn’t “certain” to make a user feel shaken, out of control, etc., because I find it clear and helpful. It depends on the user. :))