Volusion vs. Magento -- anyone have experience with BOTH?

Hi all.

First post. :slight_smile:

I’m having a rough time deciding between Volusion and Magento. I realize that they’re different – one being hosted and the other I host myself – but I’m intrigued by both of them. Frankly, they both look good.

Anyone have any experience with using both? I’d love to hear comments from actual users.

Which one do you prefer, and why? Which is better for SEO? Which is easier/better for customers, resulting in more completed sales? etc…

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks! :slight_smile:

Just do a quick search for “Volusion Down” on Google. From what I understand they used Rackspace in the past and then recently switched to another data center. I had a project I was developing with a Volusion cart and the downtime was horrible. This was just a month or two ago.

Switching from Rackspace to anything else
is simply not a good idea for a mission
critical application like a shopping cart.

It’s too bad they do not have an affiliate
program as I would recommend their service
all day (you just need to be prepared to pay
up)

Anyone ??

Volusion has better on deck metric capabilities out of the gate. Based solely on the fact that Magento is free, I would go with that though. It is fundamentally as poweful as volusion just not quite a polished yet. That said, Magento will be shortly. You have to watch out for a few duplicate content issues currently with Magento, in terms of seo, but short of that it is very cool stuf. It is cheaper to get your own server and ssl than it is to use Volusion if I remember correctly.

Magento is structured such that you can do just about anything with it. I am personally a fan of complete separation of design from the logic bits. I seem to be harping on that alot around here lately.

hope that helps, and feel free to ask any more questions you may have,
Nigel

I’m kinda thinking the same thing. The monthly charges will probably be fairly similar once you throw in decent VPS hosting charges (Magento is apparently not good with cheap/shared hosting), but Magento will be cheaper.

Volusion would be easier, since it’s pretty much turnkey. And I’d be able to let them worry about the headaches, including upgrades, etc. But something about Magento is attractive to me. Again, I’m no developer – I’d have to hire a Magento expert to help with initial setup and future tweaks/upgrades. But even as a non-developer I find myself loving the back-end of Magento. It’s very clean, and I like clean. Volusion, on the other hand, has a very clunky looking back-end. Something about it turns me off – although I can’t quite put my finger on it.

You lost me here. What does this mean? SEO is obviously very important to me, so is this thing bad enough to be a deal-breaker? I’ve heard that Volusion is very SEO friendly. If Magento is not, I’d rather not go with it. Know what I mean?

In no particular order you can fix a few semantic, sorta picky things by following this quick guide http://www.magentocommerce.com/boards/viewthread/16495/

and this fixes the other issue http://www.magentocommerce.com/boards/viewthread/21933/ which essentially means you can get the same content with a different URL string.

This actually refutes the inherent need for the second one http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/09/demystifying-duplicate-content-penalty.html

If the server is up to speed, or simply has a few requirements in place such as mysql_pdo, install and set up is a snap depending on what you have to do with it. Given how powerful it is it helps to think about the future of the cart and or product scheme if you will. You don’t want to have to redo how you have your products categorized or sold if that makes sense… this would really only involve things like grouped or kitted products.

I have it running on a junk server here http://www.thegraphicdesignresource.com/chet it is your typical shared hosting plan for about 20 a month. While I don’t advise anyone run an e-commerce site on shared hosting, it seems to work fine. It is actually a tad faster now as well, that is not the latest build.

It took me about an hour to set that up, do a few things, and then dump an entire website built with zencart into it with the Oscommerce migration tool. This will also speed things up quite a bit http://www.magentocommerce.com/extension/457/fooman-speedster

I just started an SEO project for this site http://www.supremedefense.com
that is a slightly modified version of the default template. (man I have some dry demographics to work with these days lol)

It is still possible to knock up something that will look much better than zencart, oscommerce, etc. with little effort.

Not to confuse this issue, this stuff is pretty cool as well and a bit easier to get your head around http://www.prestashop.com/

I have not tested that as extensively but typically has what I am looking for in terms of being able to design it.

At the end of the day I am willing to jump through some hoops in order to output stuff that looks like this for instance http://www.homedics.com/ (didnt design that site, its just an example) much like this http://www.magentocommerce.com/blog/comments/the-recycled-retriever-on-magento

You simply can’t compare that to something deployed with zencart for example.

hope that helps,
Nigel

Nice, I like it. Who did the modifying?

The site owner. He seems quite capable in terms of coding stuff. It is largely just the header replacement. Most of the other stuff is “out of the box”. I think he had someone on DP crank out the typographical element(logo) for him. He was able to implement things I suggested to him on the fly so he can clearly get around that stuff with relative ease.

Nigel

Nigel, pretty nice sites you show under Magento. I am amazed specially by homedics.com, damn well client-thought site.

SoundsGood, please tell us news on your new site’s ecommerce platform, whichever the choice you make. I am interested particularly if you find the administration easy and powerfull.

Volusion Vs. Magento? Really? really?

Magento is a professional grade full commerce and cms solution, Volusion is not.

professional grade full commerce

wrritten in inprofessional language like php ?

Both solutions are “professional”

Sure, and Volusion has a rigid non-customizable framework that spits out non-standards compliant, non-SEO friendly invalid markup. That’s professional?

They’re not really comparable.

Have you ever used Magento (or similar solution)?
My big hangup with Volusion is that I think they’re kinda greedy. They charge more for the monthly service than others do, charge a setup fee while others do not, charge more for the SSL cert than others do, hardly give any bandwidth (then charge a lot for overages), etc., etc.
If they were more reasonably priced I’d already be using them. But since they’re not (in my opinion) I hesitate, and look into other offerings. <snip>