Nameserver question

I made a search for ns1.damnx.us through CNNIC:
http://ewhois.cnnic.cn/index.jsp
and get the information:
域名服务器 ns1.damnx.us
所属注册商 Tucows, Inc.
What’s it mean?
and I do a serach with ns1.damnx.com,I get nothing.This can explain why I can’t use damnx.com as my domain’s nameservers.
Tucows do what to damnx.us and I can use damnx.us as my domain’s nameservers?

You can’t use those servers for your domains. When you host your own site after that they provide the nameservers. so no need to use those nameservers.

Hello Austinparkar,

OP is hosting with us. Previously he was at a server where we are using NS of damnx.us As that server was having some trouble, OP requested us to move his account to another server. We moved the account and assigned NS of damnx.com (our another domain).

Now the problem is this - he has a domain .com.cn and his Chinese registrar is not allowing him to change the ns1.damnx.us to ns1.damnx.com and so on.

All our clients at both the servers are fine with NS of damnx.us and damnx.com

OP is in opinion that something wrong at our end. Our both domains are qualified and registered with DirectI. Both have proper Child Name settings and working fine with all webhosting accounts.

We are not able to understand what is the problem with his Chinese Registrar. Why is he not allowed to change DNS? We are confused at our end also. We offered him to transfer his domain to us; but recently .cn has been stopped for registration and transfer by Resellerclub.

Can you figure out how can we help the OP?

Thanks and best regards,

Now the problem is this - he has a domain .com.cn and his Chinese registrar is not allowing him to change the ns1.damnx.us to ns1.damnx.com and so on.

Why? Did they explain that somehow?

Here is our conversation:

client
Hi,I don’t look carefully,it looks like the old NS.When I try to change it to ns1.damnx.com and ns2.damnx.com.I get the following message:
0107:soap:2303:Object does not exist:ns1.damnx.com

client
Hi,I had talk to one guy from my registrar,he told me the 2 nameservers were not register at CNNIC.To use for a .cn domain,the domain must register at CNNIC.so I’m afraid I can’t use this two nameservers.

We
if you cannot use .com then how can you use .us ? It is ridiculous reply your registrar is giving to you. It is your right to change NS records to your choice. Can you visit control panel to manage your domain? Did you try to change NS there?

client
yah,I can visit my domain’s control panel,but can’t change the NS.I’ll contact CNNIC about this

Hi,I contact my registrar again.they told me the DNS need certification by CNNIC,or I can’t use that NS.Is your .us server already certificated by CNNIC?I had sent CNNIC 2 emails ask about it.I’ll get back to you as soon as I got a reply.

Hi,I had got reply from CNNIC.your two NS must put on records at CNNIC,or I can’t use it.It will take a long time to put them on records.I think the best method is continue to use .us NS.
but why can I use .us NS?this confuse me.
Can you tell me why can’t I continue use .us NS?

and to put my domain and NS on records at CNNIC must through you.I heard that any domain don’t put on records at CNNIC will no longer be visited.

We
CNNIC are talking stupid. Place this issue on forum and you will get some real info there.

Our point is this - if .com TLD, which is a common TLD, is not allowed by your Registrar, then how can they allow .us which is country specific?
The basic trouble is with your Registrar.

client
I talked the guy from my registrar again.I asked why I can use damnx.us as NS and why I can’t use damnx.com as NS.
He told me,when you use damnx.us as DNS server,your registrar DirectI had already do recognize for you,so I can use .us as NS.
damnx.com is register through you,have you do recognize for this domain?If you don’t do recognize,then I can’t use it as NS.

We
Your domain has nothing to do with DirectI.
DirectI is not the registrar for 175games.com.cn
DirectI is registrar for both damnx.us and damnx.com and these both domains and their NS are working fine for all customers.
Please ask your Registrar to change NS for you and that will solve the problem. You should use now following NS:
ns1.damnx.com
ns2.damnx.com

client
Hi,I can godaddy’s nameserver.
ns1.godaddy.com
ns2.godaddy.com
Why can’t use damnx.com as nameservers?
Are you sure damnx.com as nameservsers works properly?Why I can use godaddy and can’t use yours?
sorry fo my bad English.I mean I can change to godaddy’s nameservers,why I can’t change to damnx.com?

We
We are sure damnx.com nameservers are working fine for 1000+ customers. We do not know why are you able to use/cjhange godaddy’s nameserver but not the damnx.com nameservers. better ask this question from your registrar.

damnx.com is a qualified domain and resolving properly to its IPs 174.123.168.210 and 174.123.168.211 respectively for ns1 and ns2

client
Hi,I made a search with ns1.damnx.us at CNNIC:
http://ewhois.cnnic.cn/index.jsp
I get the following information:
域名服务器 ns1.damnx.us
所属注册商 Tucows, Inc.
ns1.damnx.us is register at Tucows, Inc?
I made a search with ns1.damnx.com,get no results.I think this is the reason why I can’t use damnx.com as nameservers.Can you also register ns1.damnx.com at Tucows, Inc?

We
Actually there is no problem with damnx.com The problem is with your registrar who is not allowing ns of damnx.com You have to sort out this issue with your registrar only. This issue is not concerned with hosting account but this is related with only domain registrar.

damnx.us and damnx.com both are registrered with DirectI. Please use this link to get all the correct data for these domains: http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx

CNNIC.CN is playing mischief and displaying wrong data as their own database is corrupt and not with updated details. damnx.us was never with tocows. We never dealt with tocows. We are with directI all the time. You can check domain history from this link: http://www.dndetails.com/index.php

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Now, if anyone is able to figure out the problem or correct us, this will be a great help to us.

Thanks and best regards,

I can use godaddy and hostgator’s nameserver
ns1.godaddy.com
ns2.godaddy.com
ns1.hostgator.com
ns2.hostgator.com
I can also use damnx.us
ns1.damnx.us
ns2.damnx.us
but why I can’t use damnx.com?
Anyone know the reason?

I had contact CNNIC,CNNIC let me go for my registrar,and my registrar let me go for my hosting

the guy from my registrar said I need to do some certification for damnx.com.He said when the doamin is to use as DNS,the domain registrar do the certification automatic.
As damnx.com is not register at them,he let me go for my hosting.
I had contact registrar of damnx.com,publicdomainregistry.com.as my domain is not register there,I don’t get any help

We never heard about this. This is strange. Right now Chinese are playing the trick. Main aim is to boost their own webhosting industry by restricting non-chinese hosts.

This is our conversation with DirectI:

Preston: Give me the .com.cn domain
Toniya Mishra: 175games.com.cn
Preston: Well, this is an issue with the Registrar, they can simply ask them to check the DNS of the domain name…
Preston: Every name server has a RDNS which proves that the domain name is authentic
Preston: What kind of proof do they need?

Preston: The WHOIS part is a mistake at the registrar’s part…
Preston: http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=ns1.damnx.com&type=nameserver You can provide them this link… tell them that the name server if valid…
Preston: *is
Toniya Mishra: We are telling the same; but Chinese Registrar of that domain is not allowing our NS to be added, saying these are not authenticated by DirectI
Preston: You may ask them what kind of authentication do they need

Server Name: NS1.DAMNX.COM
IP Address: 174.123.168.210
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com

I had just talked the guy from my registrar via QQ,his QQ number:4481344.Following is our conversation:
日期:2010-2-24
回复雪人 20:05:04
你好,上次你给我说要我的域名注册商对damnx.com做认证。要做什么认证?
回复雪人 20:06:58
我域名:175games.com.cn
我要用ns1.damnx.com,ns2.damnx.com做nameserver,但是改不了
回复心灵神会 20:07:38
都已经跟您说的很清楚的,您的NS服务器必须经过CNNIC的认证
回复心灵神会 20:07:59
而NS服务器是域名在哪里注册由哪里负责帮你去认证
回复雪人 20:08:34
我在这发了篇帖子,你要不要澄清一下
http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=661807
回复雪人 20:09:18
我的主机商已经和他们的域名注册商联系过了
回复雪人 20:09:38
This is our conversation with DirectI:

Preston: Give me the .com.cn domain
Toniya Mishra: 175games.com.cn
Preston: Well, this is an issue with the Registrar, they can simply ask them to check the DNS of the domain name…
Preston: Every name server has a RDNS which proves that the domain name is authentic
Preston: What kind of proof do they need?

Preston: The WHOIS part is a mistake at the registrar’s part…
Preston: http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whoi...ype=nameserver You can provide them this link… tell them that the name server if valid…
Preston: *is
Toniya Mishra: We are telling the same; but Chinese Registrar of that domain is not allowing our NS to be added, saying these are not authenticated by DirectI
Preston: You may ask them what kind of authentication do they need

Server Name: NS1.DAMNX.COM
IP Address: 174.123.168.210
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
回复心灵神会 20:10:42
不懂英文
回复心灵神会 20:12:00
总之我告诉你一点,你的NS服务器域名不是我们这里注册的话,是解决不了你的问题的
回复心灵神会 20:12:16
解决问题一定要找对地方
回复心灵神会 20:12:47
域名在哪里注册的,由哪里给你添加NS的认证
回复雪人 20:14:18
PublicDomainRegistry.com他们说他们已经做了认证,他们说是你们不让我改。你说我改相信谁呢?
回复心灵神会 20:14:36
我们不让你改???
回复心灵神会 20:14:45
你不是已经问了万网了吗啊
回复心灵神会 20:15:00
不是已经问了CNNIC了吗
回复心灵神会 20:15:11
他们也给告诉你没认证了
回复心灵神会 20:15:15
难道不权威吗
回复雪人 20:15:31
他们说是6288.com.cn不让我改,CNNIC也是让我找6288.com.cn
回复心灵神会 20:16:05
你要这么说我没办法
回复心灵神会 20:16:15
你就耽误你自己去吧
回复雪人 20:17:08
你说这是啥话啊。你有胆就在论坛那发个帖子
回复心灵神会 20:17:41
你爱怎么发就怎么发
回复心灵神会 20:18:00
如果触犯了我们的利益,律师会找你的

回复心灵神会 20:18:16
这个认证我们肯定没法给你做的
回复心灵神会 20:18:38
因为你那个NS的域名不是我么这里注册的
回复雪人 20:18:36
是啥认证?
回复心灵神会 20:18:47
CNNIC的NS认证
回复心灵神会 20:18:56
你自己问过CNNIC了
回复心灵神会 20:19:02
上次不是他们回答过你了
回复心灵神会 20:19:22
CNNIC不可能会说6288不让你改这句话
回复心灵神会 20:19:32
你把CNNIC的原话回答找出来
回复心灵神会 20:19:34
看看明白

I had sent CNNIC an email,and sent them this post’s address,maybe someone from CNNIC can come here clear up this matter

It appears that CNNIC is authenticating all the domains its own. What the hell, they are upto. Recently (there is a post on this forum) they changed all the policies and non-chinese registrars are not allowed to do anything with .cn domains. It is monopolising the industry. Same way they want chinese hosting only for .cn domains. The answers given by chinese support are very harsh.

Finally this issue is neither concerned with our hosting nor with our Registrar, i.e. DirectI.
CNNIC has to authenticate damnx.com domain and permit its NSs.

All the best

I had seen many .cn domains for sale,I had seen some sites sell .cn domain for less than $1 for the first year.It’s because of cn domain policy.This is not good to China’s internet industry.As a native Chinese,it’s so difficult to get a .cn domain.even you got a cn domain,you have to find a hosting.In China,hosting is very expensive.It’s expensive than hosting outside China.I can’t afford for a hosting in China,don’t know why they’re so expensive

Non-chinese Registrars are now not allowed to sell .cn and not allowed to transfer or renew .cn domains. Please check a post http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=662178 on this forum in domains section.

It’s because of cn domain policy.This is not good to China’s internet industry.
Yes, it is very bad.
As a native Chinese,it’s so difficult to get a .cn domain.even you got a cn domain,you have to find a hosting.In China,hosting is very expensive.It’s expensive than hosting outside China.I can’t afford for a hosting in China,don’t know why they’re so expensive
They are making money. They do not know that they will make money only from Chinese people. Rest world is neither going to buy .cn domains not going to host in China.

All the best.

from QQ number 4481344(心灵神会)'s support,I think the support is very bad.I had open some tickets at my registrar 6288.com.cn before,but none were replied.They treat you as air.I had read some posts in some Chinese forums,transfer domain from Chinese registrars to other registrars is also very difficult.From these matters and facts,I’ll never register domain in China again.

for the site management of Chinese Goverment ,miibeian require every site put on record at them,I think this is good,it can prevent porn,illegal things and fraud.but put a site on record at them need time,I heard that sometimes it may take serveral months,or you’ll never get a reply :smiley:
before you put your site on record at them,your site had been shut down :smiley:
China’s internet industry is far behind United States,Canada and European countries.Chinese Government should create proper environment suitable for China’s internet industry devepment.Only so,China’s internet industry can get a good develepment :slight_smile:

By not allowing other Registrars to do business for .cn Chinese are killing their own business. They are shrinking their market.

No one bothers to Chinese Govt. to get his domain authenticated by them.

Regards

I had call CNNIC,my line was pick up,I havn’t understand what they’re saying,my telephone was hang up.**** CNNIC,**** my registar.As a native Chinese,sometimes even me hate Chinese very much :mad:

I had talked to another guy from my registrar,following is our conversation
四海 17:26:17
这个备案不是指网站备案
四海 17:26:21
是NS服务器备案
四海 17:26:52
在webnic。cc注册的国际域名,你添加服务器时,自动就给你添加CN域名的注册备案了
四海 17:27:22
那你可以继续用这个域名做解析damnx.us
四海 17:27:31
用你原来可以用的
雪人 17:27:50
damnx.com和damnx.us都是在一个地方注册的,为什么.com的不能用?
四海 17:28:04
那你问问你的域名注册商
雪人 17:28:12
用不了.us的了

四海 17:28:21
为什么没给你添加CNNIC的NS注册备案
雪人 17:28:24
问了,他们说没问题
四海 17:28:34
但是事实就是没有添加
四海 17:28:39
不是他们说没问题就没问题的
四海 17:28:52
在这个问题上,我们不会卡你,没有任何意义的