Logo design: what resolution?

I am designing a logo for a hotel named “Pier Pointe Resort”

I use Fireworks4. I had finished designing the logo when I realized I had made it in a document with 72 pixels per inch.

Should I remake the logo in a document with higher pixels per inch? It wouldn’t be any trouble to remake the logo. Also, if I should have a higher pixels per inch, do I need to remake the logo, or copy and paste it into a document with a higeher pixels per inch?

THanks! (in advance):smiley:

your logo should be done in an illustration program (illustrator/freehand/coreldraw etc.) as vector art which is resolution independant.

Should being the key word here Swimm…

It’s acceptable to design the logo in a raster program (Photoshop, Fireworks, etc…). The drawback to that is the file size could be prohibitive as you would need to design your logo at around 600-1200dpi or larger. Plus since these apps base the artwork on pixels (each pixel is x color) you cannot reliably resize the logo if you need to.

It is preferable to design it in a vector program (Illustrator, Freehand, Corel Draw) as those applications base the artwork on math instead of pixels (see above). Thus, instead of saying “draw a circle with this pixel is x and this pixel is y and this pixel is z.”, the applications says draw me a circle with a radius of n and coordinates of x and y.

The benefit of this is that you could resize the logo to the size of a building and it would still look as crisp and clean as it would at the size of a business card.

ahhhh, i c. thanks. too bad i don’t have those programs.

actually, i think i know where i can get CorelDraw for free. A family member has it at their business, I’ll get one there. Thanks a lot!

BTW, so what would be a good resolution to design in?

Just a note, you can change the resolution of a fireworks file by using Image Resize. :slight_smile:

Saves you the work of doing it over again.

i have firewoks too n my advice is to make your logo at 72 dpi. then after you are finished, use the IMAGE RESIZE feature to change your resolution to whatever

great! thanks. :slight_smile:

sounds TOO easy…

nope it works =) you know whats weird though guys? even at 72dpi my screen seems to see it at a normal high resolution. i mean, if i look close at the screen, every pixel is filled in with a separate color, even though my screen resolution is probably over 150.

swimm5001,

If you’re still having problems with the FW drawing you can export it to Illustrator format. You’ll then be able to import that into most other vector programs, including Corel Draw.

Creole >> FW is a vector program, so you can scale your drawings to your hearts content. Shame on you for not knowing that.:wink:

Originally posted by geiger
i have firewoks too n my advice is to make your logo at 72 dpi. then after you are finished, use the IMAGE RESIZE feature to change your resolution to whatever
NOOOOO
DON’T do that!

That might be fine for a logo that ONLY needs to appear on a website, but THINK AHEAD! What if your business takes off and you need this logo in a magazine? Or printed on a T-Shirt?

The logo you do in Fireworks at 72dpi will be completely WORTHLESS!

If you have access to a copy of Corel Draw then use that. As I mentioned in one of my posts, Raster programs are fine to design your logo in as long as you think ahead. If you are doing your logo in Fireworks, then you need to start the document in at LEAST 600dpi and preferably 1200dpi.

If you do design in Corel Draw, then resolution will not be a factor as vector programs are “resolution independant”. See my last post which details the pros and cons of raster/vector programs.

Originally posted by geiger
nope it works =) you know whats weird though guys? even at 72dpi my screen seems to see it at a normal high resolution. i mean, if i look close at the screen, every pixel is filled in with a separate color, even though my screen resolution is probably over 150.

Geiger…no offense, but you do not understand how resolution works.

A really quick tutorial.

SCREEN resolution works on a pixel system. Monitors can only display an image at 72 pixels per inch (ppi). So, no matter how far in you zoom on an image, each pixel will STILL only display one color.

IMAGE resolution is different. When you create an image at 72dpi it corresponds to the screen resolution, thus one pixel in your image displays as one pixel on the screen (at 100% image size).

However, if you create an image at a higher resolution (such as 300dpi) the comparison breaks down and the math takes over. That’s why some people’s image appear to be MUCH larger then they really are.

Listen to Creole…really.

It is the truth.

yup, creole knows what he’s talking about. I was not aware that FW had vector based postscript output. even so it should be imported into CorelDRAW or the like to make sure it is created right (text converted to paths, counters combined into compound objects and not just grouped on top etc.) as many programs create non-standard eps/ai/ps files that can be a nightmare when sent out for film.

Everyone:

I agree with Creole…everything he has stated is absolutely correct.

Another thing is NOOOOO do not make a Logo design at a 72dpi if using non-vector programs. As Creole stated this may be fine for a web presentation but certainly not for printing…the higher the resolution the better if your PC or Mac can handle the high resolution he, he… Best bet is to use vector. However, I design with Photoshop and it comes out pretty nice with a high resolution.

Good luck!

heh i guess i made myself sound pretty stupid. i did know most of that, creole. thanks anyway. i just read somewhere that an average screen displays at 150dpi. guess it was wrong. and the thing that i DIDNT know was about the vector v. pixel displaying. now THAT can be helpful. my computer is supposidely pretty good (dell dimension xps r450) but when you get up to 600dpi everything moves at a snail’s pace. and then sometimes i get illegal operations or the comp freezes.

thanks eveyone

geiger, more ram would go a long toward helping to solve that problem, and they’re practically giving sdram away these days.

ps, you should seldom need to go much above 300dpi even for glossy printing

oh i forgot… about the logo you were making-- using firewoks, some resolution changes shouldnt affect the quality, i dont think. for example, if you have text with an outline or a bevel, changing the resolution will make the computer re-apply the text settings. it would be just as if you created it a moment ago. however, if you use shapes and such, the image is already created and has to be mathimatically split. am i right?

If you have applied an effect to a vector layer, then no, changing the resolution should not change the effect or lower the quality. But if you have anything that is raster in there, then you’ll screw it up.

Originally posted by creole
[B]Should being the key word here Swimm…

It’s acceptable to design the logo in a raster program (Photoshop, Fireworks, etc…). [/B]

[i]Originally posted by shane [/e]
Creole >> FW is a vector program, so you can scale your drawings to your hearts content. Shame on you for not knowing that.

Whoa, now I’m even more confused.

First Creole said that Fireworks isn’t a vector program. Then people said that vector program (such as CorelDRAW) images can be resized and look perfect. Then shane said Fireworks is a vector program.

So which is it?? :confused:

I thought, as did shane, that Fireworks was a vector program. I mean, I draw shapes and put them together. And text can be converted to paths.

HELP

wait a minute… first off thanks for pointing out the conflicting info. i hope FW IS a vector program.

shouldnt any graphics program using layers be a vector program?