How is your Wordpress site currently backed up?

I do not have my site currently backed up and realize I need to do it asap. So then come the questions. I recently had my web host verify the fact that I have no backup in my cPanel and would need to purchase it as an additional expense aside from my current VPS hosting. I wrote them and their sales team quoted me:

Hi,

We had special backup deals last month and we can extend the offer just for you.

250GB offsite backup - Original Price: $30/month | Special Price: $21/month (30% OFF!)

500GB offsite backup - Original Price: $50/month | Special Price: $30/month (40% OFF!)

1TB offsite backup - Original Price: $90/month | Special Price: $45/month (50% OFF!)

2TB offsite backup - Original Price: $170/month | Special Price: $85/month (50% OFF!)

The above offers include backup server setup for free. This means that we will configure your main VPS to automatically generate backups and transfer the said backups to the offsite server on a nightly basis. We recommend that you purchase backup space that’s at least 7x your current disk usage. That would allow you to have access to one week’s worth of backups all the time.

No annual discounts available due to the already discounted monthly pricing. Of course, you’re free to prepay for 12 months if that would be more convenient for you.

Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Thank you,

I think this is pretty expensive. I say this because there must be other alternative since I do have automatic backups for my actual computer files via subscribing to iDrive’s service. I do know Wordpress has a plugin that works in conjunction with iDrive…but I want to be realisatic…all plugins have done is cause me MORE problems. What about my Maxtor external USB drive? Can my wp database and wp_includes eventually backup on that? It would be interesting hearing anyone’s ideas and how you currently backup. Thank you.

Things can happen. Bad things that may have nothing at all to do with anything you did or didn’t do.

Unless you’re willing to risk losing everything and starting all over again from square one, backups are essential.

As I posted in another of your topics, IMHO you should have an exact copy of your entire website in some type of localhost setup on your computer. This would be primarily for testing changes before you make changes to the live site. But it could also serve as a backup source to some extent.

I’m cheap on a limited budget so I do my own backups. I consider the backups as a kind of “restore point”, that is, I know I could lose everything newer than the last backup.

I FTP all of the files to my computer.
I use a backup plugin to create an export file that I can use to import data if need be.

So I guess what you should consider regarding the automatic backups are two things.

  • does your computer have enough space for a copy of your site? (I know you have a lot of images, so it might take a lot of space)
  • are you self-disciplined enough to do backups when you think they should be done? (based on how much you’re willing to risk losing)
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Yes, I am self-disciplined enough…I appreciate this informative insight. First question: does connecting to an external USB drive backup files? Wonder about that aspect. Also I realize that I need to focus on two things:

#1. Theme files (as I do have a custom theme running)

#2. Database

Is any manual backing up possible, using FileZilla? I do have that on my machine? Also want to show a screenshot of my disks. One with most space is obviously the newest one installed when I purchased new machine about 18 months ago and E drive which is redlining is old drive with alot of old data on it… Just wondering what a good starting option would be to take on this. I appreciate the input. (not sure about that Access Media…looks like an offering through my Windows10 upgrade)

I know you’re against plugins, but it’s the best way to go. The way I do it on my end is:

  • Use UpdraftPlus - I use the free version
  • I then configure it to backup files weekly and the database daily
  • I then have it automatically send the backups to my Google Drive
  • Because I have Google Drive synced to my desktop, I always have 3 copies of the backups: one the server, on Google Drive, and on my desktop

If things get hairy, restoring is a breeze. After the initial setup you never have to worry about it again

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With only 40K left you may as well consider that full.

You wouldn’t need to keep the backups on your main drive,

I usually burn the older backups to disc, but saving them on a thumb drive would work fine as well.

TBH all of my old backup discs are for the most part only taking up space. Only on extremely rare occasion have I ever gone into them to look for an old file. And I have never needed to use them to do a backup. … but … they are insurance, just in case.

FTP will only get the files, for the database you will need an export file.

I basically do the same thing but using BackWPup as the plugin and DropBox as the destination(which itself is automatically backed up to Google Drive as well as synced to my desktop so I have 4 copies of the backups

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great feedback here. I appreciate it. Here is a question regarding the attached screenshot. While in my cPanel, I was going to click my website’s main folder in “Themes” and download that first, to save it. I would save “danscartoons”, correct? I mean, this is a custom theme that was built from the main “twentytwelve” theme if I am not mistaken. So I believe I download that one, correct?

I have three backups:

  1. is at the base VPS host (Linode), which they charge 25% of the current fee for daily backups at the node level (basically, a complete backup including the operating system).
  2. is a file backup from BackWPup (free version), that writes it down to the file system, for ease of access. This includes a database dump, as well as plugin and theme files.
  3. This same BackWPup also makes a copy out to Amazon S3. Since my unmanaged VPS server is in the same hosting location as an Amazon datacenter, the backup takes about 23 seconds and no actual traffic hits the Internet. It costs around 24 cents (0.24 USD) per month for daily backups with a 10 day rotation.

I’ve only used 1. in testing a disaster situation where either I’ve gotten hacked or somehow the OS becomes unstable.

I use 2. for access to files if there are accidental overrights.

I’ve only used 3. once on occasion, when the local backup wasn’t available. Works fine.

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thaNKS FOR ALL THESE INFORMATIVE RESPONSES. i DID FIND OUT i CAN “COMPRESS” MY THEME FILES AND DOWNLOAD TO MY pc VIA THE CpANEL. - sorry my all caps got stuck…anyway, I will do the same with my “Database” and I have another question. I found I have OneDrive on my machine. If you haven’t heard of it. Here is background info. Has anyone here used it and what are your thoughts regarding it? I can store my compressed files here I believe. I have never been aware this existed on my machine (OneDrive), but recently I upgraded my operating system to Windows10…I assume it comes with that os. but please advise as to your thoughts. Thanks for the helpful advice.

I use that too and it looks like is working fine even if it`s the free version. I use it on my personal website, but also on customer’s website

skorpion, you are using OneDrive you mean?

No. google drive. for storage , and updraftplus for back-up

skorp: I do have a gmail account, adsense account etc. I assume I have access to Google Drive? How did you set up yours? I mean do you save G.D. files similar to files you name in ‘My Documents’…and / or save G.D. files in My Documents? curious

I don’t use Google Drive, but they have a comprehensive Help section:

thanks for these docs regarding info on Google Drive. For anyone saving their site files to Google Drive, what are you typically paying? This would help and be appreciated

15Gb is free

I think I can save my compressed themefiles and database there? Not sure…

You should be able to fit at least a few hundred compressed copies unless you have millions of database posts.

Your hosting account should show you how much disc space you are using, to give you some idea of how much space you’ll need. Remember that image files are already compressed, so zipping won’t have much/any effect on those, but it can significantly reduce the size of text files.

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