I sent an email to Stu Nicholls about this topic. Hopefully he’ll chime in with some ideas too 
I’m currently at the same stage Ray. Seems I’ve exhausted every way I can think of to hold it open. Time to change direction I’m afraid…
Rochow, brilliant! That gives me an area to look into!
Remember the above HTML code from Paul is only a suggestion. You can add tons of other junk if you want.
I have something working … if you don’t mind your site visitors needing to have ninja fast reflexes to click the link before it disappears from view 
- i have 2 simultaneous big projects, and i wanted one of them to have REAL css dropdowns, so i invented a way to do it.
- yes, lots of cross testing, opera seemed to misbehave more than other browsers.
- i am this someone, eh? XD
plus its never time wasted when you learn something new.
you just made me invent another 3rd way of doing this, although its not valid css :p.
adding the ul to the a haha
your on the same one i was.
exactly Stomme poes!!
rochow
Which <ul>, the one with the sub items? You don’t need too. Say you have 20000px bottom margin on <a class=“target”> or whatever it is. This pushes the menu out of site (until you scroll that is ). Then, on hover, you make the margin 0. Pow, it’s now visible as it’s brought back up beneath the <a>. Though I haven’t figured out how you’d hide it… like I said, quick theory
why don’t you pull it up? then it will not trigger any scrollbar.
ryanhellyer
I sent an email to Stu Nicholls about this topic. Hopefully he’ll chime in with some ideas too
i hope he doesn’t steal it and say its his invention… i worked too much on it to have him take all the credit.
ryanhellyer
I guess I’ve always ruled out stuff like that since it’s likely to mess up other code on the page.
note:
the dropdown does not break content on any page, its like an average dropdown and has no effect on the content around it.
although feel free to send any working version.
I’ve beaten you to that one already unfortunately. I’m guessing a bunch of others have done it too.
I can see how this is possible now, but haven’t quite got it working yet. Motivation isn’t high either since it sounds like you have mastered it already
Stu Nicholls replied to my email, but I get the impression he’s not convinced you guys are onto anything here. I guess you will prove him wrong soon
Heh, I hadn’t thought of that. I’ve just been using overflow:none to get rid of the scroll bars.
Are you like some sort of ninja god of CSS or something? I always thought that Paul O’B was the almighty of CSS but if you can pull this off I might have to relegate Paul to #2 status
If are indeed a CSS god we may need to sacrifice a small virtual goat in your honour to stop you striking our invalid CSS down with a bolt of lightning.
guessing a bunch of others have done it too.
don’t guess, because what if they haven’t?
I can see how this is possible now, but haven’t quite got it working yet. Motivation isn’t high either since it sounds like you have mastered it already
if i had not done it, you wouldn’t even be trying to do it!
plus its a quiz and the self satisfaction of figuring it out is always worth it,
means you could have done it too, and maybe you will learn a thing or two? or maybe you will come up with another original and better way of doing it? highly possible.
Stu Nicholls replied to my email, but I get the impression he’s not convinced you guys are onto anything here. I guess you will prove him wrong soon
meh! xD i don’t want to prove anything to stu, simply showing that its possible.
Are you like some sort of ninja god of CSS or something? I always thought that Paul O’B was the almighty of CSS but if you can pull this off I might have to relegate Paul to #2 status
hahah i have the highest respect for Paul, he is much much much more experienced in css that i am, but it just happened to “click” in my brain one day, its really not that complex, and has several solutions possible.
“everything is possible, but not everything is feasible”
If are indeed a CSS god we may need to sacrifice a small virtual goat in your honour to stop you striking our invalid CSS down with a bolt of lightning.
hahahahahahhaahahhaaha
I have something working … if you don’t mind your site visitors needing to have ninja fast reflexes to click the link before it disappears from view
Making the menu appear is the easy part
Making it stay open while you navigate it is another question!!! One answer could be clear if you think hard enough about it relatively speaking.
I was trying to do it absolutely speaking.
For some stupid reason it wasn’t working though. I might have another bash tomorrow as I think I was just doing something demented as in principle it should have worked.
This is slightly off-topic, but YuriKolovsky would you be able to tell us a little about yourself? I hadn’t heard of you until wandering into this topic. Do you have a personal website or blog?
I’m picturing something like this in my head:
Modified image borrowed from jewcy.com
hahaha, i do have a beard, not long though oh and long hair.
Oh that “smite” button looks very nice.
Lol, I didn’t see that, I thought it was just a SHIFT key!
I didn’t think Yuri was that ancient-looking either.
hahah i made a little 50 fun facts about Yuri
just because you asked so nicely ryanhellyer
Fun facts about yuri
- real name is not yuri but timo (yuri is an alias)
- loves to chat
- has a messy mind
- wears no glasses
- works with css for 2 years now
- is a fast learner
- was best in class, because was the only one in class taking math and physics
- speaks about himself in 3rd person
- is not old (doesn’t believe in age in terms of time lived)
- first web book read: “Build Your Own Web Site The Right Way Using HTML & CSS” by Ian
- 2nd book read: Build.Your.Own.Database.Driven.Website.Using.PHP.&.MySQL
- 3rd book read: CSS Reference by Paul and Tommy
- lives in a place where the web is still in infancy
- is Russian, but with a Finnish passport but lives in Spain
- is good at everything that he does.
- thinks that all you need to succeed is to know the basics, and know them good
- thinks that everything is possible
- believes in telekinesis
- loves animals
- loves plants
- loves photography and art
- loves to draw pencil art
- never swears (i swear!)
- loves paul’s css quizzes, thinks it’s the best thing since muesli’s
- learned a lot from pauls css quizzes, and will probably make a website dedicated to them (if paul doesen’t)
- made websites from day 7 of starting to learn websites
- has not had the time to make himself any website, too busy with making other relatively big websites.
- asks stupid questions and answers stupid questions
- fails at googling things
- is good at hard things
- fails at very easy things
- sleeps 10 hours a day
- is left handed but writes with the right hand (slightly ambidextrous)
- has equal hemisphere brain processing
- is nice to others (too nice), loves to help (too much)
- 2nd website ever made was a one paged self adapting website with a AI (never released because was too complicated for real life use)
- is a perfectionist
- loves mind games and quizzes and puzzles
- has an IQ of 156 according to http://iqtest.com/
- uses the password… oh wait, not supposed to tell you this.
- his name sounds similar to “time”, and sometimes “team-o”.
- goes mountain climbing regularly
- is honest and hardworking
- speaks 4 different languages (and understands a 5th one)
- has a skewed way of thinking, failing some exams because of this. (I give correct answers to questions, but the answers were not the ones they were looking for)
- had a pet tomato bush (that gave 60 tomatoes!)
- is easily impressed
- knows lots of subjects to a small degree
- trusts intuition
- has a bad short term memory but a good long term memory
and an extra:
51. made his first blog one day before offering this quiz
after i finish these 2 projects, ill polish my blog, and add as much help to beginners to the webworld as i can, if its popular maybe ill make it into a proper dedicated website.
you haven’t heard of me because i haven’t been making any sound.
- had a pet tomato bush (that gave 60 tomatoes!)
Is it called FT?
- is good at hard things
- fails at very easy things
Time for Perl: making easy things easy and hard things possible : )
no, not at all, the name was Tomat
but if perl makes easy things easy and hard things easier, doesn’t it mean that i wont be able to do any of it?!? xD
haha, but seriously, i will look into perl as soon as i can although ive heard good stuff about python too.
Wow noone hasa got this yet? Now that I’m back from vacation I will indeed take a stab at this…
Kudos to a tough quiz…lemme post some and I’ll devote time to this.
(If what I’m thinking is correct I think I kno the way you did it since you mentioned Opera doesn’t work xD)