I’ve never had a framework that requires a “more expensive server”. Servers are built with capacity. Capacity that uses power whether or not you’re storing extra bytes or not. You dont build a server for a site; you put sites into an existing server.
Not been an observed problem for me. But to be fair, i’m not one to care about microseconds worth of time that most modern internet speeds accomplish this extra load.
I fail to see significant enough value in this impact to bat an eyelash at. Which, incidentally, is probably more of an environmental impact than a couple of kilobytes being sent over the wire.
I don’t… see how there’s a changing value over time.
If you’re trying to rewrite the plugin, this is true, but if the plugin is doing something you would struggle to do as a coder yourself, then… there’s where your ‘may be harder’ exists, and is an impossibility to render a universal judgement on.
I’m curious now. Have you actually done the math on all these environmental impacts you talk about? The microseconds and number of bytes relative to the average? The difference between that and… I dont know… the amount of extra computer time and thus power you have to put in in front of a online PC screen to replicate the effects of the code in ‘pure’ web? Where’s the balance point?
Sitting behind a user, waiting for a spinning wheel, gives me one view of environment impact. Using a cheap small VPS instead of several big VPS’s is another impact. Some hits your wallet, some hits your blood pressure. And some hits the energy consumption and bandwidth.
There was once someone who said “be careful of the cents, the dollars can manage them selfs”.
We can at least agree that we are looking at this from different angles.
And at the end of the day, there are factors that harder to argue about: Having really fun chasing micro seconds. Try it sometime!
After a decade or two, you suffer from maintenance problems and wasting time (money) trying to find work arounds for something you do not understand or is responsible for.
But let us end this discussion. We sit at opposite corners of the room. I agree that your arguments are valid in most cases. But not all.
I dont actually think we do sit at “opposite corners”, because that would imply that my position is that you should always use frameworks and such. Which isnt my position. But, I agree we sit at different positions within the room, as will every other person reading the thread, sitting somewhere in the room.
But, as you do not wish to engage in further discussion, I shall let your words be the final on the subject, no matter if we still disagree on them.
