If your goal is to get different IPs you should buy them over a period of time. Really though, I don’t think it makes much difference at all. The main reason you would need to do this is if you were doing something black hat.
Yes, different Class A IPs are a good idea for disparate websites.
If they’re interlinking sites, you want them on disparate subnets, too… so that they appear to be hosted in different facilities, or at the very least on different servers. if you have a 255.255.255.x subnet mask between your interlinking IPs, it’s generally felt not to have as much weight in Google’s eyes.
There aren’t if you have a dedicated address - I was referring to the average. As there are more web sites than there are IPv4 addresses some web sites have to share addresses. The more sites that have a dedicated address the fewer addresses there are for the others to share.
That’s why a dedicated IP address is meaningless as far as SEO is concerned.
There are only two reasons why you might need a dedicated IP address.
On shared hosting where you need specific ports on the server to be open for your site which are not open for other sites sharing the server.
To use https and a security certificate.
Unless you have one of those two requirements you are just wasting your money and a scarce resource in getting a dedicated IP address.
Things will be different once the internet is converted over to IPv6 as then there will be several million IP addresses available for every person.
i’ve had a shared hosting account with a respected web host for about ten years and the IP has never changed
however, they don’t charge me extra for this, it’s a pretty basic (and very reasonable) hosting fee, and i also don’t see any option from this host which even talks about not having a permanent IP, or differences in prices if the IP isn’t premanent
you’re saying that i’m overspending? maybe i should move to some other host where my web site gets reassigned to different random IP numbers within their IP block from time to time?
what sense would that make from the host’s point of view?
i’m sorry, stephen, i’m just not buying any of what you’re saying
I have had my sites hosted with the same shared hosting provider for about seven years and the Ip address of my hosting has never changed either. I am not paying any extra for a dedicated IP address either as I don’t have either of the two situations apply where I’d need one. The only circumstance where the web host would change my IP address is if my site was the biggest one on the server and the server was getting too full so that they needed to move a site to a different server to make more space (where the biggest site would then get moved to a different server since that keeps to a minimum the number of sites to move while freeing up the most space).
As the biggest sites are the ones most likely to have a need for a dedicated IP address the IP addresses of sites moved between servers are also unlikely to change.
There is a lot of difference between a dedicated IP address that belongs to the site (where if the site is moved to a different server the IP address goes with it) and a static IP address that permanently applies to all the sites on a server that don’t need a dedicated IP address.
The only sites that MUST HAVE a dedicated IP address are those on their own dedicated server or VPS hosting and those on shared hosting that have a need to open ports or have a security certificate. Other sites can have a dedicated IP address but will still function if they don’t have one. From the sound of things your site does have a dedicated IP address but would still function just as well if it was sharing an IP address with the other sites on the server.
Anyway this thread is about SEO and a dedicated IP address never impacts on SEO at all.
It would be like suggesting that there are a dozen apples and sixteen people to share those apples between and having your own apple gives you an advantage over someone who has to share an apple with someone else. As there are fewer apples than people someone has to share. The same applies with IP addresses in the IPv4 address space where there are now many more sites, visitors, etc who need an IP address than there are IP addresses to go around and so some have to share. The top level authority for handing out IP addresses handed out the very last batch of addresses a few weeks ago and in the futire will only be able to hand out IPv6 addresses as all of the IPv4 ones are already allocated to somewhere. Admittedly it will take a while for the remaining IP addresses to get allocated to web hosting providers (if the ISPs don’t grab them instead) but they will eventually run out - faster if those who don’t actually need a dedicated IP address insist on having one.
There is a difference between needing a dedicated IP address in order for your site to be able to function and simply wanting a dedicated IP address. SEO is not a reason for wanting to have a dedicated IP address since the search engines do not take the IP address into account at all in determi9ning their search results…
i’m certainly no hosting expert, but this sounds totally wrong to me
if another domain mapped to the same IP address as my site, you don’t think there might be any problem?
so how come if i enter my raw IP address, e.g. http://3496662325/, i only see my own site, and never one of the others that supposedly might be sharing my IP?
i’ll tell you one thing, if there ever was somebody else’s domain on my IP (besides the 6 that i have that all map to it), there would be bloody hell to pay, because i’ve got server code in place to detect which domain it was, and it’s ~never~ not one of mine
sharing IPs amongst different sites just doesn’t make any sense – at least not to me
at all? you sure? perhaps you can cite an authoritative source for this bold statement
I would think that would be why a dedicated IP is extremely important…
If a website requires its own server (or several servers) it NEEDS a dedicated IP address (or many IP addresses) in order to function.
A website that requires its own server is more likely to be important than a website thrown up on a shared host, and also shows that there’s an entity behind the website willing to spend money to operate it.
For both of these reasons, if I were Google, I would give more preference to a website on its own IP (and server).
Also, I’ve noticed measurable differences in SERPs on several occasions when moving from a shared server to a dedicated server.
WHY would you show 3496662325 when your IP is actually 188.8.131.52. “Same difference” but the answer you received from transio was spot on. For each of my IP addresses, there is a domain name assigned with “subdomains” created for each “addon” domain assigned to that account (they exist in subdirectories of the main domain). It’s all SOP.
Well if you have a dedicated IP then you own that IP address and your host will not allocate that IP address to anyone else.
With most shared hosting providers if there were say 50 accounts on a server then perhaps five of them might have a dedicated IP and the other 45 would share the IP address of the server.
Where multiple domains map to the same IP address (whether because they are all on the one account belonging to one person or whether they are in separate accounts) the web server knows which folder each of the domains and sub-domains are in and directs any requests for that domain or sub-domain to the appropriate folder. If the IP address is entered instead then you need to specify the folder name on the end for it to know which account to go to (it is generally entered with a ~ in front since the specific folder name is usually unique and the exact path to it doesn’t matter), just entering the IP address would get a default page belongig to the web host (for the server IP address) or the account’s main domain (for dedicated IP addresses).
Also with over 9 billion web sites in existance (that figure is from some time ago so it could be over 10 by now) and only 4 and a bit billion IPv4 addresses (most of which need to be allocated to ISPs so that people can use them to access the internet and other non-web related purposes since there are lots of computers needing IP addresses that are not running web servers) there would be an average of at least five web sites (probably more) per IP address and so no reason whatever for search engines to treat sites with their own IP address any differently from the much larger number of web sites that share an IP address.
I really don’t think IPs would affect SEO but I could be wrong. All I can think of now is that if you are seeing a faster load time in the websites then having different IPs is helpful since Google considers load times as a ranking factor now.
I agree. I have approximately 200 websites on the same IP. I was concerned about this for a long time but after much research I have come to the conclusion that it doesn’t matter. I guess I just would not link the sites to each other.