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Old Feb 24, 2009, 04:50   #1
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Difference Between N/A & 0 For PageRank?

I notice when i visit sites, some list a PR0, while others have PR n/a.

Is there a difference?
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 05:33   #2
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Hi Sammy,

As I understand it, pages with N/A such as <snip /> do not have any weight in the eyes of Google, however pages with a PR0 such as <snip /> have a little weight so therefore it is a PR0.

Im sure that this is correct, however please correct me if im wrong.

Hope this helps.

Mike

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Old Feb 24, 2009, 09:14   #3
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Sites that have No PR will show N/A. New sites have N/A. Banned Sites may show the same. Or a site which Google do not want to index.
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 12:56   #4
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N/A means that google has yet to go through it. See if you can get google to spider them.
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 21:02   #5
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N/A page rank is normal to new sites. When big G index your page and update its PR, it can be any numbers from 0-10 based on the work you've done on building links.
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 23:54   #6
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Both are actually meaningless as they are historical values for PR and not current when Google exports them to the toolbar.
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 23:56   #7
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N/A means that google has yet to go through it. See if you can get google to spider them.
so why do most of the PR N/A sites are available in Google's cache? How did they get there if google is yet to spider them?
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 00:03   #8
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Google will crawl and scan websites, either they have PR or do not because simply PR is not a matter of crawling the pages and the newly built sites may have N/A status for a while and may turn to PR0 or jump to higher numbers very quickly.
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 00:25   #9
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Of course there's a different. One is "not available" while other is "0".
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 02:32   #10
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I notice when i visit sites, some list a PR0, while others have PR n/a.

Is there a difference?
I find it as the same. PR0 = No PR = No PR to Show
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 02:49   #11
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I notice when i visit sites, some list a PR0, while others have PR n/a.

Is there a difference?
I think N/A Means Not Applicable And 0 PR means you got as min PR 0 in future you may be got 0,1,2,3.........10

Thanks!!
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 03:16   #12
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Almost everyday we see the site PR status and yet this is a very rare topic. this means lots of people does not pay attention to this including me because I thought PR 0 and N/A has no difference.
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 14:38   #13
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Almost everyday we see the site PR status and yet this is a very rare topic. this means lots of people does not pay attention to this including me because I thought PR 0 and N/A has no difference.
That's not right. n/a sites get no traffic from Google, while PR0 sites usually get some traffic.
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 14:39   #14
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That's not right. n/a sites get no traffic from Google, while PR0 sites usually get some traffic.
Rubbish. Perhaps you could explain why most n/a sites are cached and indexed in Google. They means they must get traffic!! Also PR has NOTHING to do with traffic.
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 16:24   #15
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to me NA=Not available (as opposed to not applicable).PageRank algorithms requires a lot of things like some back links,keyword density, and so on to calculate it.When a new site is launched it shows NA for some time because it doesn't have many parameters.
Like my site was showing a PR of NA some time ago.When it gets sufficient data to calculate PR,it calculates and shows zero because toolbar page rank(what we see)is not updated daily but on a quarterly(or more) basis.(However internal pagerank is updated daily but we are not able to see it.)

And it will be initially zero.My site is at present showing Zero PR and I am sure it'll be updated in next two months.

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Old Feb 25, 2009, 16:43   #16
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keyword density, and so on to calculate it.
Keyword density has NOTHING to do with pagerank.
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 19:00   #17
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Yikes. This discussion seems to be degrading rather quickly. In order to try and calm everyone down, here is a page from Google Webmaster Help regarding this topic (spoiler - it doesn't really answer the question)

http://www.google.com/support/forum/...40032263&hl=en
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 20:11   #18
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Yikes. This discussion seems to be degrading rather quickly.
That's because people are making uneducated guesses or repeating mis-information they read/heard somewhere else without having anything to back it up - pretty common on these types of forums.

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In order to try and calm everyone down, here is a page from Google Webmaster Help regarding this topic (spoiler - it doesn't really answer the question)

http://www.google.com/support/forum/...40032263&hl=en
I thought that did quite well to answer the question actually
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Old Feb 25, 2009, 20:44   #19
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That's because people are making uneducated guesses or repeating mis-information they read/heard somewhere else without having anything to back it up - pretty common on these types of forums.
The problem is that unless these people are challenged, SP will quickly just become another DigitalPointless. Notice how almost all of those challenged NEVER come back to defend or back up their statements.

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Old Feb 26, 2009, 21:40   #20
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Notice how almost all of those challenged NEVER come back to defend or back up their statements.
That's because it's all about post counts and backlinks...
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Old Feb 27, 2009, 00:47   #21
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Almost everyday we see the site PR status and yet this is a very rare topic. this means lots of people does not pay attention to this including me because I thought PR 0 and N/A has no difference.
Same here...
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That's not right. n/a sites get no traffic from Google, while PR0 sites usually get some traffic.
??? welll then please explain how could a PR n/a get a PR0 if they even don't have traffic coming to their site?...
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Old Feb 27, 2009, 05:38   #22
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N/A mean you Don't have any PR of your site or page and PR 0 mean that you have 0 PR simple dear it didn't have any relationship between Traffic or key words density or Google Crawl dear.
Google have their unique statistic as far as PR is concern if you wants batter PR go for Quality link building. for PR Google has it's own unique formula.
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Old Feb 27, 2009, 07:06   #23
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page rank 0 mean the sites page rank is 0

N/A page rank mean Google cant show page rank as of then

it is simple
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Old Feb 27, 2009, 07:32   #24
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Excellent thread. I honestly never knew the difference myself.
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Old Feb 27, 2009, 10:40   #25
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Both of these meeans that site is too new...

N/A means that google have not assign any PR to this page or it did not have crawl it yet...
because when google crawls a page three forth time then start giving any weightage to them....

Pr0 means that google know about this page but it have a little importance....
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