w3 not validating flash?

[Egor]

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...tomatically%29

Is there any way to have valid XHTML and have flash in it?

I dont understand why it doesnt like the embed attributes??

Thank you in advance

[vgarcia]

<embed> is not a tag in HTML 4.0 or XHTML 1.0. Try Flash Satay instead.

[xhtmlcoder]

Though <embed /> is in my hand-rolled XHTML DTD.

[pissant]

But be aware there are issues with the flash satay method, including that it makes IE unable to stream the flash.
Possibly better to just have a page valid but for the flash

[Paul_C]

pissant, read the article a little more thoroughly. IE can still be made to stream the flash via a loader (as described.)

[pissant]

Originally Posted by Paul_C

pissant, read the article a little more thoroughly. IE can still be made to stream the flash via a loader (as described.)

yep read it, used it and decided that I would rather have invalid flash markup than have to load my main movie into another one to stream it

There are major restrictions to what you can and can't do with a swf loaded into another and since most of the flash work I've done lately has been of the RIA variety having those restrictions can cause a lot more pain than it is worth to me to validate the flash

SO I don't like the satay method (I do think it is very smart work though), but others may like it, I just wanted to make sure the original poster was aware of the potential sacrifice to be made for validation

[Egor]

Thanks for your input guys I have decided to go WITH the satay method in this case as the movie is only 7k. But for bigger movies I think I will stick to the original method.

[Chas]

There's one other issue with using the Flash satay method you may want to know about.

http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?p=672337

[Egor]

Ahhh, its always IE

[adris72]

I know this is an old thread, but I have the same flash-no-validating problem and found an easy solution. Will post it here for those that maybe search for the same problem in the future.

This code has been tested and works in Internet Explorer 5.01, 5.5, 6.0, Mozilla, Firefox, Opera and Konqueror and is fully XHTML Strict valid. No <embed> tags needed.

Valid Flash example for XHTML 1.0 Strict (XHTML 1.1)

<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="images/banner.swf" width="288" height="128">
<param name="movie" value="images/banner.swf" />
<img src="banner.gif" width="288" height="128" alt="banner" />


source: http://www.ambience.sk/flash-valid.htm

[hgilbert]

i've been using the satay method for ages
never had any problems at all
(so far)

[adris72]

i've been using the satay method for ages
never had any problems at all
(so far)

The only problem I see in satay's method is if you are using a flash that you can't modify (if you bought it without the source file for an example).

[zcorpan]

Originally Posted by adris72

I know this is an old thread, but I have the same flash-no-validating problem and found an easy solution. Will post it here for those that maybe search for the same problem in the future.

This code has been tested and works in Internet Explorer 5.01, 5.5, 6.0, Mozilla, Firefox, Opera and Konqueror and is fully XHTML Strict valid. No <embed> tags needed.

Valid Flash example for XHTML 1.0 Strict (XHTML 1.1)

<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="images/banner.swf" width="288" height="128">
<param name="movie" value="images/banner.swf" />
<img src="banner.gif" width="288" height="128" alt="banner" />


source: http://www.ambience.sk/flash-valid.htm

It's funny because I came up with the exact same sulotion the other day. http://zcorpan.1go.dk/flash/ (Only, I used a conditional comment just to show that it's only IE that needs the param)