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biggazillakilla · Apr 7, 2004, 17:31

Seeing some big changes here! 7 on my two sites. I notice Dethfire's up to 8 on one of his sites.

Anybody else???

Now, where's that banana??

lo0ol · Apr 7, 2004, 17:43

Suprising. Google seems to be updating PR more frequently as of late.

michael_gersitz · Apr 7, 2004, 17:43

Yeah, I just saw the PR update...

Athorn4941 · Apr 7, 2004, 17:56

Cool!!! all my sites page ranks have gone up.

whoo hoo

rockyracoon · Apr 7, 2004, 18:02

One of mine has...

megamanXplosion · Apr 7, 2004, 18:02

:O

My page rank when down from 6 to 5

Oh well, by the next update I'll get my rank back

emmzee · Apr 7, 2004, 18:03

Anyone else think there's not really enough variation between PageRank? At least, as far as its displayed on the toolbar, anyways. What I mean is, it seems to take very little effort to get, say, PR4, but monumental effort to get PR6 or 7 ...

I mean, my personal site, which has little content and even fewer visitors, is now PR4 ... whereas my largest site has easily 400x as many visitors and at least 100x as many links in, and it is only PR6 ...

lo0ol · Apr 7, 2004, 18:06

That's the nature of PageRank. It gets tougher and tougher to get a higher number. It's some sort of logrithmic scale (ask aspen for all the mathematical details). There's only a handful of PR10s and not too many PR9s. Ranks lower than that are continually easier to acheive as you go down.

Dan Grossman · Apr 7, 2004, 18:11

Interesting. Some nice gains, but nothing above PR6 still. I should link some more of my sites together.

dethfire · Apr 7, 2004, 19:09

woohoo, got me an 8 and then all 7 and 6

aspen · Apr 7, 2004, 19:13

My entire "Training Network" (survival site, fitness site, orienteering site) went up to 7. The survival site was a 7 before I launched the other two (it then dropped to 6) but the other two never were. Jalic.com went back up to a 7. My amazon coupon page also went back up to a 7. My art history site went up to a 7 (first time for that one too).

The rest seem to be the same. I don't pay attention to alot of them though.

Dan Grossman · Apr 7, 2004, 19:18

Seems like an awful lot of moves to 7 around here; think they made it easier to get?

biggazillakilla · Apr 7, 2004, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Grossman

Seems like an awful lot of moves to 7 around here; think they made it easier to get?

That's what I was thinking, which is why I was checking other sites I keep an eye on.

I was 7 a couple years ago, dropped to 5 at one point, and have been working my way back up for a while.

aspen · Apr 7, 2004, 21:04

I think its possible they changed the scale, but if they did I would have thought they'd make it harder. I do not think they would have singled out a single number or rank to change.

A global PR increase can be the result of a decrease in Google's index size.

Maybe the dampening factor was lessened?

It could be any number of things really.

Dan Grossman · Apr 7, 2004, 21:07

Welp, if PR went up for as many sites outside of SPF as it did here, I'm sure I'll read a few theories in webproworld or whatever that newsletter's called in a day or two... they're always linking someone's forum post as the reason for everything.

I just want my search result ranks to go up

I'm back on page 2 of 'website tools'/'free website tools' this month.. liked it better on page 1

KLB · Apr 7, 2004, 21:39

My chemistry site jumped up to a PR 7. This is the first time since late last fall that it was a PR 7. It had dropped to a PR 6. As my one site has bounced around between PR 6 and PR 7 for quite some time, I suspect this change is caused by how Google's overall indexing of the web is going rather than changes to the PR algorithm. Of course this is pure speculation.

lo0ol · Apr 7, 2004, 21:46

It's obvious- Google is giving a new SitePoint boost for those that post. Larry and Sergey must be members here.

KLB · Apr 7, 2004, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by lo0ol

It's obvious- Google is giving a new SitePoint boost for those that post. Larry and Sergey must be members here.

Don't we wish

biggazillakilla · Apr 7, 2004, 23:02

At home now, noticing a few things--got some PR from SP it looks like. Also, none of my internal pages seem to have 7; just the homepages.

Dan Grossman · Apr 7, 2004, 23:03

I also noticed some backlinks from SitePoint posts to some of my sites... ya think the signatures are actually bringing some collective PR to SPF members?

I think the board is better indexed than it used to be.

jplamb · Apr 7, 2004, 23:33

I have 2 sites that hit PR7 as well, the rest of mine are 6's. It seems like it has gotten easier to get high PR.

Planex CVS · Apr 7, 2004, 23:38

My site just went from a 2 to 5 and my forums went from a 0 to 4, and it's only been active for 5 weeks. It's either become lenient, or a new link hierarchy has been set.

biggazillakilla · Apr 7, 2004, 23:48

Weird--all the other sites I watch have the same PR. phpbb is still 9, SP itself is still 8, other sites not changed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Grossman

I also noticed some backlinks from SitePoint posts to some of my sites... ya think the signatures are actually bringing some collective PR to SPF members?

I think the board is better indexed than it used to be.

Could it be... that... our sigs are giving good PR??

For those of you who've jumped--are your backlinks showing SP? I'm showing only one, and it looks pretty random.

Dan Grossman · Apr 7, 2004, 23:49

I'm showing multiple SPF posts in backlinks to almost all of the sites in my sig. That means they're passing enough PR to show up on the link search..

2010 · Apr 7, 2004, 23:57

Dmoz.org went to PR10, consequently tens of thousands of listed sites will show a meaningful improvement in PR. Also consequently sites not in dmoz may well show a drop, unless of course they are linked from sites that benefitted from the dmoz increase.

The Google Directory is also showing some second and third level categories moving up a notch due to their links from the parent dmoz category... high PR7's become low PR8's.

Apr 7, 2004, 17:31	#1
biggazillakilla SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco USA Posts: 1,210	7!!!!!!!!! Seeing some big changes here! 7 on my two sites. I notice Dethfire's up to 8 on one of his sites. Anybody else??? Now, where's that banana??

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Apr 7, 2004, 17:43	#2
lo0ol l º 0 º l Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Palo Alto Posts: 5,536	Suprising. Google seems to be updating PR more frequently as of late.

Apr 7, 2004, 17:43	#3
michael_gersitz SitePoint Guru Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 2 Posts Per Day Posts: 925	Yeah, I just saw the PR update...

Apr 7, 2004, 17:56	#4
Athorn4941 SitePoint Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 324	Cool!!! all my sites page ranks have gone up. whoo hoo

Apr 7, 2004, 18:02	#5
rockyracoon SitePoint Evangelist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Burbank Posts: 456	One of mine has...

Apr 7, 2004, 18:02	#6
megamanXplosion SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kentucky, USA Posts: 1,091	:O My page rank when down from 6 to 5 Oh well, by the next update I'll get my rank back

Apr 7, 2004, 18:03	#7
emmzee Unauthorized Web Theologian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Posts: 738	Anyone else think there's not really enough variation between PageRank? At least, as far as its displayed on the toolbar, anyways. What I mean is, it seems to take very little effort to get, say, PR4, but monumental effort to get PR6 or 7 ... I mean, my personal site, which has little content and even fewer visitors, is now PR4 ... whereas my largest site has easily 400x as many visitors and at least 100x as many links in, and it is only PR6 ...

Apr 7, 2004, 18:06	#8
lo0ol l º 0 º l Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Palo Alto Posts: 5,536	That's the nature of PageRank. It gets tougher and tougher to get a higher number. It's some sort of logrithmic scale (ask aspen for all the mathematical details). There's only a handful of PR10s and not too many PR9s. Ranks lower than that are continually easier to acheive as you go down.

Apr 7, 2004, 18:11	#9
Dan Grossman Follow Me On Twitter: @djg Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Philadephia, PA Posts: 18,683	Interesting. Some nice gains, but nothing above PR6 still. I should link some more of my sites together.

Apr 7, 2004, 19:09	#10
dethfire SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,564	woohoo, got me an 8 and then all 7 and 6

Apr 7, 2004, 19:13	#11
aspen Serial Publisher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: East Lansing, MI USA Posts: 13,283	My entire "Training Network" (survival site, fitness site, orienteering site) went up to 7. The survival site was a 7 before I launched the other two (it then dropped to 6) but the other two never were. Jalic.com went back up to a 7. My amazon coupon page also went back up to a 7. My art history site went up to a 7 (first time for that one too). The rest seem to be the same. I don't pay attention to alot of them though.

Apr 7, 2004, 19:18	#12
Dan Grossman Follow Me On Twitter: @djg Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Philadephia, PA Posts: 18,683	Seems like an awful lot of moves to 7 around here; think they made it easier to get?

Apr 7, 2004, 21:04	#14
aspen Serial Publisher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: East Lansing, MI USA Posts: 13,283	I think its possible they changed the scale, but if they did I would have thought they'd make it harder. I do not think they would have singled out a single number or rank to change. A global PR increase can be the result of a decrease in Google's index size. Maybe the dampening factor was lessened? It could be any number of things really.

Apr 7, 2004, 21:07	#15
Dan Grossman Follow Me On Twitter: @djg Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Philadephia, PA Posts: 18,683	Welp, if PR went up for as many sites outside of SPF as it did here, I'm sure I'll read a few theories in webproworld or whatever that newsletter's called in a day or two... they're always linking someone's forum post as the reason for everything. I just want my search result ranks to go up I'm back on page 2 of 'website tools'/'free website tools' this month.. liked it better on page 1

Apr 7, 2004, 21:39	#16
KLB Why??? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Maine USA Posts: 3,877	My chemistry site jumped up to a PR 7. This is the first time since late last fall that it was a PR 7. It had dropped to a PR 6. As my one site has bounced around between PR 6 and PR 7 for quite some time, I suspect this change is caused by how Google's overall indexing of the web is going rather than changes to the PR algorithm. Of course this is pure speculation.

Apr 7, 2004, 21:46	#17
lo0ol l º 0 º l Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Palo Alto Posts: 5,536	It's obvious- Google is giving a new SitePoint boost for those that post. Larry and Sergey must be members here.

Apr 7, 2004, 23:02	#19
biggazillakilla SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco USA Posts: 1,210	At home now, noticing a few things--got some PR from SP it looks like. Also, none of my internal pages seem to have 7; just the homepages.

Apr 7, 2004, 23:03	#20
Dan Grossman Follow Me On Twitter: @djg Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Philadephia, PA Posts: 18,683	I also noticed some backlinks from SitePoint posts to some of my sites... ya think the signatures are actually bringing some collective PR to SPF members? I think the board is better indexed than it used to be.

Apr 7, 2004, 23:33	#21
jplamb root Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 725	I have 2 sites that hit PR7 as well, the rest of mine are 6's. It seems like it has gotten easier to get high PR.

Apr 7, 2004, 23:38	#22
Planex CVS SitePoint Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CA Posts: 34	My site just went from a 2 to 5 and my forums went from a 0 to 4, and it's only been active for 5 weeks. It's either become lenient, or a new link hierarchy has been set.

Apr 7, 2004, 23:49	#24
Dan Grossman Follow Me On Twitter: @djg Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Philadephia, PA Posts: 18,683	I'm showing multiple SPF posts in backlinks to almost all of the sites in my sig. That means they're passing enough PR to show up on the link search..

Apr 7, 2004, 23:57	#25
2010 SitePoint Guru Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 647	Dmoz.org went to PR10, consequently tens of thousands of listed sites will show a meaningful improvement in PR. Also consequently sites not in dmoz may well show a drop, unless of course they are linked from sites that benefitted from the dmoz increase. The Google Directory is also showing some second and third level categories moving up a notch due to their links from the parent dmoz category... high PR7's become low PR8's.