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ArticleBot · Feb 27, 2004, 01:34

This is a dedicated thread for discussing the SitePoint article 'Review - Tinderbox Content Management System'

Feb 27, 2004, 01:34

It'll be nice when it's not a MacOnly toy ;o)

disappointed Windows User...

Feb 27, 2004, 01:41

Spelling mistake at the bottom - "reatails". Still a good review - well done.

Feb 27, 2004, 07:00

great

Feb 27, 2004, 07:01

greeeeeat

**bwarrene** · Feb 27, 2004, 07:58

Excellent Mac suprise! Glad to hear of it and I am sure any user of any platform could benefit from this. Being a researcher/writer as well as technologist - this looks like just what I need. Perhaps it will shift me off of movable type...?

Tinderbox · Feb 27, 2004, 08:08

Don't worry -- Tinderbox for Windows is coming, soon!

http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/

bmurray · Feb 27, 2004, 16:17

Thanks for the good review and in advance for some help.

I downloaded your sample, but I do not know what to do to use it. I have the Tinderbox demo. I see the Sitepoint Tinderbox Sample is a Unix Executable File. Should I be doing something with it? Everything is grayed out if I try to open in Tinderbox.

eddie · Feb 28, 2004, 02:43

Great to hear from this. I think this kind of software is just what we need in this era full of information.

Is it possible to compare it with The Brain?

RubberPaw · Feb 28, 2004, 18:43

Hey bmurray, Tinderbox uses a special Mac file resource to tell the OS that it's a tinderbox file. This gets lost in the Zip.

To open up the file, use the option-click "open with" option.

Feb 29, 2004, 19:03

May indeed increase productivity which is fine I suppose, though it removes the flexibility that us developer's have to offer, that this software doesn't.

ie I think the things are headed, this style of content generation and management is at some point in the future, going to kill off a lot of developers.

So what you may ask ? But do you really want to see every other web site you visit, in the exact same mould?

It's already beginning to happen with the like of Movable Type

Feb 29, 2004, 21:32

To use the example file, rename the file called Sitepoint Tinderbox Sample to Sitepoint Tinderbox Sample.xml, then open in TB. Czwieb

RequiemShark · Mar 5, 2004, 10:29

since I don't have a Mac (yet). I can't try out Tinderbox immediately but it seems very simlar to a program that's been out for a while for Windows - http://www.thebrain.com/
look for the Personal edition $80

Apr 29, 2004, 01:56

for requiemShark: Nope. I looked at thebrain web site. From what I could tell, thebrain is to a pc what OS X is to a Mac. Tinderbox is a creative Tool, not an operating system replacement.

May 24, 2004, 07:03

I am a user of both Tinderbox and TheBrain. They are not the same.

The Brain has a dynamic interface that re-drws the map (plex, they call it) as you navigate. Tinderbox's Map view is static.
But Tinderbox has many other views which make navigating linked items (thoughts in the Brain = Notes in TB).

Complex to summarise the differences - The Brain is not for Website building, it is very good for browsing content and capturing content from the web.
Tinderbox is very good for building weblogs and small websites, writing documents and other applications where networks are suitable models for the content.
Dave Garbutt

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Feb 27, 2004, 01:34	#2
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	It'll be nice when it's not a MacOnly toy ;o) disappointed Windows User...

Feb 27, 2004, 01:41	#3
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	Spelling mistake at the bottom - "reatails". Still a good review - well done.

Feb 27, 2004, 07:00	#4
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	great

Feb 27, 2004, 07:01	#5
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	greeeeeat

Feb 27, 2004, 07:58	#6
bwarrene SitePoint Columnist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 747	Excellent Mac suprise! Glad to hear of it and I am sure any user of any platform could benefit from this. Being a researcher/writer as well as technologist - this looks like just what I need. Perhaps it will shift me off of movable type...?

Feb 27, 2004, 16:17	#8
bmurray SitePoint Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alaska Posts: 1	Thanks for the good review and in advance for some help. I downloaded your sample, but I do not know what to do to use it. I have the Tinderbox demo. I see the Sitepoint Tinderbox Sample is a Unix Executable File. Should I be doing something with it? Everything is grayed out if I try to open in Tinderbox.

Feb 28, 2004, 02:43	#9
eddie SitePoint Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Boskoop, Netherlands Posts: 3	Great to hear from this. I think this kind of software is just what we need in this era full of information. Is it possible to compare it with The Brain?

Feb 28, 2004, 18:43	#10
RubberPaw SitePoint Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania USA Posts: 6	Hey bmurray, Tinderbox uses a special Mac file resource to tell the OS that it's a tinderbox file. This gets lost in the Zip. To open up the file, use the option-click "open with" option.

Feb 29, 2004, 19:03	#11
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	May indeed increase productivity which is fine I suppose, though it removes the flexibility that us developer's have to offer, that this software doesn't. ie I think the things are headed, this style of content generation and management is at some point in the future, going to kill off a lot of developers. So what you may ask ? But do you really want to see every other web site you visit, in the exact same mould? It's already beginning to happen with the like of Movable Type

Feb 29, 2004, 21:32	#12
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	To use the example file, rename the file called Sitepoint Tinderbox Sample to Sitepoint Tinderbox Sample.xml, then open in TB. Czwieb

Mar 5, 2004, 10:29	#13
RequiemShark SitePoint Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 51	since I don't have a Mac (yet). I can't try out Tinderbox immediately but it seems very simlar to a program that's been out for a while for Windows - http://www.thebrain.com/ look for the Personal edition $80

Apr 29, 2004, 01:56	#14
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	for requiemShark: Nope. I looked at thebrain web site. From what I could tell, thebrain is to a pc what OS X is to a Mac. Tinderbox is a creative Tool, not an operating system replacement.

May 24, 2004, 07:03	#15
Anonymous SitePoint Community Guest Posts: n/a	I am a user of both Tinderbox and TheBrain. They are not the same. The Brain has a dynamic interface that re-drws the map (plex, they call it) as you navigate. Tinderbox's Map view is static. But Tinderbox has many other views which make navigating linked items (thoughts in the Brain = Notes in TB). Complex to summarise the differences - The Brain is not for Website building, it is very good for browsing content and capturing content from the web. Tinderbox is very good for building weblogs and small websites, writing documents and other applications where networks are suitable models for the content. Dave Garbutt