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DivaX007 · Oct 6, 2002, 21:42

i'm running windows98. if i use Bad Blue server, i know i can use php, but can i use mysql and phpnuke?

mattjacob · Oct 6, 2002, 22:00

Well, I've heard the Cobalt Qube called a lot of things, but never "Bad Blue." Could you, erm, rephrase the question? Like a lot?

DivaX007 · Oct 7, 2002, 07:06

go to http://www.badblue.com for a better explanation.

mattjacob · Oct 7, 2002, 11:58

That's neat and all, but you should really get a real server, even if it's just for testing. In response to your question, MySQL will work, because it's server-independent for the most part, but I'm not sure about specific PHP applications, because I don't know what they require.

Mark T. · Oct 7, 2002, 12:54

I believe as long as the server is able to call on the PHP parser to parse .php files, it should be fine. Most scripts you find online are not dependant on a certain server, but more on the PHP version the server is running.
So, if you have the ability to install/upgrade PHP yourself on that server, you should be fine with most scripts.

However, for working with PHP, I would still recommend Apache, IIS or Sambar

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seanf · Oct 7, 2002, 13:07

If you use Apache you can install PHP as an Apache module and it will be *much* faster. You also have access to a few Apache specific goodies

There are hundreds of people here that can help you with Apache, if you have any problems just ask

Sean

beley · Oct 7, 2002, 14:35

You can install PHPTriad - it will install Apache, PHP and MySQL on a Win98 box. I used it for testing until I built my linux box.

Edit: Apparently now it's called "Sokkit" and the website is below:

http://www.phpgeek.com/

DivaX007 · Oct 7, 2002, 18:14

you see, the reason i'm interested in bad blue is because from what i've read, apache/windows98 is not a stable combination and that it's best to have advance development skill if i use the apache/windows98 combination. bad blue is made for windows98.

am i wrong in my conclusion.

i'm not looking to become a developer. i'm starting a hobbyist/enthusiasts site. i need something with a good learning curve.

Mark T. · Oct 7, 2002, 21:34

If you want a good learning curve, you should use Apache as a webserver. Most tutorials online and most books will assume that you use Apache. I have been using it for more then two years now as a localhost testserver, and it never failed me.

seanf · Oct 8, 2002, 11:22

Quote:

Originally posted by DivaX007
you see, the reason i'm interested in bad blue is because from what i've read, apache/windows98 is not a stable combination and that it's best to have advance development skill if i use the apache/windows98 combination

Windows 98 is not a suitable platform for a 'live' server (i.e. don't host your website on Windows 98!). There is absolutely no real reason not to develop scripts under Windows 98 and Apache, 99% of PHP code can be used cross-platform if you know what you're doing

One thing I would say is install everything yourself. You really will learn much more, you will be able to set it up as you want it and make sure it is as fast as it can be

Sean

ame12 · Oct 9, 2002, 04:16

A couple of things to note about BadBlue:

- It's < 300K in size and comes up immediately upon installation in a browser window
- It includes a PHP Wizard that basically sets up PHP for you (and works great w/MySQL, etc.)
- It integrates with the Windows system tray so that you can control the server via right-click
- It includes the PHP ShareOffice library so you can read Office files in a single function call (say you want to read an Excel spreadsheet - you can read the entire sheet into an array in a single call, fast)

It's a little bit different than Apache in that it's designed to be a personal, peer-to-peer server that also happens to be designed to integrate with PHP in ways that Apache doesn't yet address (e.g., ShareOffice).

Download at http://badblue.com/down.htm

powdermonster · Oct 11, 2002, 16:46

check out phpdev,from
http://www.firepages.com.au

it is php apache, mysql, it is really easy to install, and i have never had a problem with it

turtlecatcher · Oct 12, 2002, 01:48

I use xitami and havent had any problems with it. I guess since it works for windoze tho, I'll have to download Apache. I always thought it only worked on Linux..? In fact just recently I went looking for a windows version and couldnt find one.

I dont use php, but for my l4me website Xitami is working okay.

$00.02

timnz · Oct 12, 2002, 02:02

Quote:

Originally posted by turtlecatcher
I always thought it only worked on Linux..? In fact just recently I went looking for a windows version and couldnt find one.

Well if you look here:
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/
You'll find the Windows binary.

terraglo · Oct 16, 2002, 04:04

Quote:

Originally posted by turtlecatcher
I use xitami and havent had any problems with it.

Yeah me too, I think its kewl, very fast and reliable and best of all its free free free

(actually it's opensource)Also very quick and easy to set-up. Recommend it to anyone who hasn't tried it. It also works just fine with PHP & MySQL so creating them dynamic sites is no probs. I currently running it on my Win2K Pro box. Try it: http://www.xitami.com/

Oct 6, 2002, 21:42	#1
DivaX007 SitePoint Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 69	apache server alternative i'm running windows98. if i use Bad Blue server, i know i can use php, but can i use mysql and phpnuke? __________________ it's a work in progress, but it's mine.

Oct 7, 2002, 07:06	#3
DivaX007 SitePoint Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 69	go to http://www.badblue.com for a better explanation. __________________ it's a work in progress, but it's mine.

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seanf Mlle. Ledoyen Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 7,181	If you use Apache you can install PHP as an Apache module and it will be much faster. You also have access to a few Apache specific goodies There are hundreds of people here that can help you with Apache, if you have any problems just ask Sean __________________ Harry Potter -- You lived inside my world so softly -- Protected only by the kindness of your nature

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beley SitePoint Wizard Join Date: May 2001 Location: LaGrange, Georgia Posts: 6,124	You can install PHPTriad - it will install Apache, PHP and MySQL on a Win98 box. I used it for testing until I built my linux box. Edit: Apparently now it's called "Sokkit" and the website is below: http://www.phpgeek.com/ __________________ Brandon Eley :: Follow Me on Twitter Kelsey Advertising & Design - 2BigFeet.com - Large Shoes for Men Co-author, Online Marketing Inside Out

Oct 7, 2002, 18:14	#8
DivaX007 SitePoint Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 69	you see, the reason i'm interested in bad blue is because from what i've read, apache/windows98 is not a stable combination and that it's best to have advance development skill if i use the apache/windows98 combination. bad blue is made for windows98. am i wrong in my conclusion. i'm not looking to become a developer. i'm starting a hobbyist/enthusiasts site. i need something with a good learning curve. __________________ it's a work in progress, but it's mine.

Oct 6, 2002, 22:00	#2
mattjacob SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,858	Well, I've heard the Cobalt Qube called a lot of things, but never "Bad Blue." Could you, erm, rephrase the question? Like a lot?

Oct 7, 2002, 11:58	#4
mattjacob SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,858	That's neat and all, but you should really get a real server, even if it's just for testing. In response to your question, MySQL will work, because it's server-independent for the most part, but I'm not sure about specific PHP applications, because I don't know what they require.

Oct 7, 2002, 12:54	#5
Mark T. SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,795	I believe as long as the server is able to call on the PHP parser to parse .php files, it should be fine. Most scripts you find online are not dependant on a certain server, but more on the PHP version the server is running. So, if you have the ability to install/upgrade PHP yourself on that server, you should be fine with most scripts. However, for working with PHP, I would still recommend Apache, IIS or Sambar .

Oct 7, 2002, 21:34	#9
Mark T. SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,795	If you want a good learning curve, you should use Apache as a webserver. Most tutorials online and most books will assume that you use Apache. I have been using it for more then two years now as a localhost testserver, and it never failed me.

Oct 9, 2002, 04:16	#11
ame12 SitePoint Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 22	A little more on BadBlue A couple of things to note about BadBlue: - It's < 300K in size and comes up immediately upon installation in a browser window - It includes a PHP Wizard that basically sets up PHP for you (and works great w/MySQL, etc.) - It integrates with the Windows system tray so that you can control the server via right-click - It includes the PHP ShareOffice library so you can read Office files in a single function call (say you want to read an Excel spreadsheet - you can read the entire sheet into an array in a single call, fast) It's a little bit different than Apache in that it's designed to be a personal, peer-to-peer server that also happens to be designed to integrate with PHP in ways that Apache doesn't yet address (e.g., ShareOffice). Download at http://badblue.com/down.htm

Oct 11, 2002, 16:46	#12
powdermonster SitePoint Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 39	check out phpdev,from http://www.firepages.com.au it is php apache, mysql, it is really easy to install, and i have never had a problem with it __________________ Keri jamesbond-007.info cPanel Guide

Oct 12, 2002, 01:48	#13
turtlecatcher SitePoint Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 9	I use xitami and havent had any problems with it. I guess since it works for windoze tho, I'll have to download Apache. I always thought it only worked on Linux..? In fact just recently I went looking for a windows version and couldnt find one. I dont use php, but for my l4me website Xitami is working okay. $00.02 __________________ "Far too lazy for that." TURTLES

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