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raymurph · Jul 21, 2002, 14:12

Hi everybody,

I want to start a website and I want it to be supported by advertising.

I know that advertising is in a slump right now but is there anyone here who has recently sold Internet advertising and what their experience(s) were.

1)Specifically, I want to know and if advertisers are willing to buy space or is space going begging.

2)Could you tell me what the current CPM rates are?

Thanks for the advice, most of the newsgroups are moderated by groups that want to sell you something and it's so hard getting "real" answers.

Omair Haroon · Jul 21, 2002, 14:24

Hello raymurph,

To be true, yes the advertising market is very slow right now. But its almost impossible to get advertisers for your site right away. Reasons? Simply because in the starting it won't be getting targetted audience. After few months, you will start getting repeated traffic. For this all, one needs to manage a website on regular basis, add fresh content and needs to shows its presence to the visitors. After this all, since you would start receiving targetted traffic there is a chance that you might start getting one or two small compaigns in a month.

During this all, ofcourse you would'nt leave the banner space blank, right? So, you can try placing affiliate links from few of the sites I am listing below. They all offer some pretty good deals which even pay you for each click/lead and etc.

BFast
FastClicks
Share a Sale
Fine Clicks
Could'nt remember any more as of now (3:30AM) but I would post few more tomorrow.

Best of luck with your site!
-Omair

aspen · Jul 21, 2002, 15:48

I have a campaign running at $9 CPM, I had a $12 CPM one a couple of months ago.

How much you can get though depends on what type of site you run.

Omair Haroon · Jul 21, 2002, 17:54

Quote:

Originally posted by aspen
I have a campaign running at $9 CPM, I had a $12 CPM one a couple of months ago.

How much you can get though depends on what type of site you run.

But aspen, when you started this website out, you did'nt got these pricy compaigns right away. Am I right?

You must have run affiliates banner on your website until you start getting repeated visitors and targetted audience.

Anyways, maybe I am wrong.

-Omair

JonPKibble · Jul 21, 2002, 18:12

If you want to make money, don't just think about selling advertising space. Think about using affiliate marketing and earning money selling other peoples' products, and generating leads for affiliate programs.

Anyone can join an affiliate program and run pay-for-performance based programs. Pay per lead, pay per sale. There are so many sites out there that the supply of CPM advertising is so high, and the demand so low since websites are a dime a dozen in *quantity*.

I earn 50-60% of my income from affiliate marketing and currently earn a living from web marketing.

raymurph · Jul 21, 2002, 22:54

Thanks for the help.. Do you know if the payment schedule of ad networks is monthly, quaterly, etc?

Omair Haroon · Jul 21, 2002, 23:51

Hello,

I ditto on what Jon said. There is enough money in Affiliate Marketing if done right.

Wish you best of luck :-)

-Omair

JonPKibble · Jul 22, 2002, 18:20

Yeah, just find products geared toward your audience. Amazon.com is the most obvious choice if you can't think of any - I use them myself.

aspen · Jul 22, 2002, 18:47

Quote:

Originally posted by raymurph
Thanks for the help.. Do you know if the payment schedule of ad networks is monthly, quaterly, etc?

Each one is different.

raymurph · Jul 23, 2002, 12:55

I've got a daily targetted newsletter planned in addition to my site which I plan to have advertising on and I'm sure I can get Amazon on board both. I'm still working out a few more ideas to squeeze revenue.

Stephan Whelan · Jul 24, 2002, 07:59

raymurph,

You don't say what marketplace your trying to break into - this will be a big factor as well due to there being a lot of websites on pretty much everything these days.

One of the best areas you can get a ROI is affiliate marketing, however the big ones out there aren't always the best - we've recently partnered with an eCommerce store dedicated to our niche and are now drawing about 3000% more income than previously (and that isn't 3000% of zero!). Bear that in mind when your shopping around.

Jul 21, 2002, 14:12	#1
raymurph SitePoint Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4	Is anyone making money advertising? Hi everybody, I want to start a website and I want it to be supported by advertising. I know that advertising is in a slump right now but is there anyone here who has recently sold Internet advertising and what their experience(s) were. 1)Specifically, I want to know and if advertisers are willing to buy space or is space going begging. 2)Could you tell me what the current CPM rates are? Thanks for the advice, most of the newsgroups are moderated by groups that want to sell you something and it's so hard getting "real" answers.

Jul 21, 2002, 14:24	#2
Omair Haroon SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 913	Hello raymurph, To be true, yes the advertising market is very slow right now. But its almost impossible to get advertisers for your site right away. Reasons? Simply because in the starting it won't be getting targetted audience. After few months, you will start getting repeated traffic. For this all, one needs to manage a website on regular basis, add fresh content and needs to shows its presence to the visitors. After this all, since you would start receiving targetted traffic there is a chance that you might start getting one or two small compaigns in a month. During this all, ofcourse you would'nt leave the banner space blank, right? So, you can try placing affiliate links from few of the sites I am listing below. They all offer some pretty good deals which even pay you for each click/lead and etc. BFast FastClicks Share a Sale Fine Clicks Could'nt remember any more as of now (3:30AM) but I would post few more tomorrow. Best of luck with your site! -Omair __________________ 36Host.com - $36/year web hosting [affiliates earn 30%] * Affordable Small Business Web Hosting since 2003! * "500mb space, 10gb bandwith, 50 pop/ftp accounts, php, mysql, pre-installed php scripts, 24/7 support & more...."

Jul 21, 2002, 15:48	#3
aspen Serial Publisher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: East Lansing, MI USA Posts: 12,955	I have a campaign running at $9 CPM, I had a $12 CPM one a couple of months ago. How much you can get though depends on what type of site you run. __________________ Chris Beasley - I publish content and ecommerce sites. Featured Article: Free Comprehensive SEO Guide My Guide to Building a Successful Website My Blog\|My Webmaster Forums

Jul 21, 2002, 18:12	#5
JonPKibble SitePoint Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 327	If you want to make money, don't just think about selling advertising space. Think about using affiliate marketing and earning money selling other peoples' products, and generating leads for affiliate programs. Anyone can join an affiliate program and run pay-for-performance based programs. Pay per lead, pay per sale. There are so many sites out there that the supply of CPM advertising is so high, and the demand so low since websites are a dime a dozen in quantity. I earn 50-60% of my income from affiliate marketing and currently earn a living from web marketing. __________________ 5:4 Automated Traffic Exchange for Content Websites http://www.FunPageExchange.com/webmaster.php

Jul 21, 2002, 22:54	#6
raymurph SitePoint Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4	Thanks Thanks for the help.. Do you know if the payment schedule of ad networks is monthly, quaterly, etc?

Jul 21, 2002, 23:51	#7
Omair Haroon SitePoint Wizard Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 913	Hello, I ditto on what Jon said. There is enough money in Affiliate Marketing if done right. Wish you best of luck :-) -Omair __________________ 36Host.com - $36/year web hosting [affiliates earn 30%] * Affordable Small Business Web Hosting since 2003! * "500mb space, 10gb bandwith, 50 pop/ftp accounts, php, mysql, pre-installed php scripts, 24/7 support & more...."

Jul 22, 2002, 18:20	#8
JonPKibble SitePoint Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 327	Yeah, just find products geared toward your audience. Amazon.com is the most obvious choice if you can't think of any - I use them myself. __________________ 5:4 Automated Traffic Exchange for Content Websites http://www.FunPageExchange.com/webmaster.php

Jul 23, 2002, 12:55	#10
raymurph SitePoint Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4	got a newsletter planned I've got a daily targetted newsletter planned in addition to my site which I plan to have advertising on and I'm sure I can get Amazon on board both. I'm still working out a few more ideas to squeeze revenue.

Jul 24, 2002, 07:59	#11
Stephan Whelan SitePoint Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: London Posts: 27	raymurph, You don't say what marketplace your trying to break into - this will be a big factor as well due to there being a lot of websites on pretty much everything these days. One of the best areas you can get a ROI is affiliate marketing, however the big ones out there aren't always the best - we've recently partnered with an eCommerce store dedicated to our niche and are now drawing about 3000% more income than previously (and that isn't 3000% of zero!). Bear that in mind when your shopping around. __________________ Stephan Whelan DeeperBlue.net CEO 138984000 square miles of ocean on the Earths surface.

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