Do you have any 5 year programming goals?

[JREAM]

Any programming you'd like to learn or know very well in 5 years?
What language? Any reason why?

[kohoutek]

In five years I'd like to be masterful at Javascript (and I mean Javascript minus lame JS frameworks) and Actionscript 3.

Another language I'd like to look into is Python. But that's it as far as my goals are concerning programming/scripting languages.

[AlexDawson]

In five years I would like to be better accomplished with JavaScript and the DOM as well, it's something I don't get too much practice with

[SoulScratch]

5 years uh let's see..

Write my own:

- compiler/interpreter/lexical parser for my own language
- text editor
- dns server
- task management software
- irc bot
- lightweight web server
- packages catered toward Debian based Linux distributions

Also...
- would like to be heavily involved in Python 4/5, ECMAScript 6/7
- would like to be involved in core development of the Pylons python framework or my own framework and slew of applications
- would like to have mastered Haskell, Python, Common Lisp, Smalltalk, Erlang, C, advanced SQL and relational database theory
- catch up to the knowledge level of Hixie, Resig, Alex Martelli, Jeffrey Friedl, Rudy Limeback, inimino ( friend ) in their respective expertises ( or come close )

For the end of this year and by Q1 next year I hope to finish my in depth guide on the jQuery internals ( started on ), become adept at Zend Framework specific development as well as the Pylons python framework.

[SoulScratch]

Originally Posted by kohoutek

Javascript minus lame JS frameworks)

I would recommend challenging yourself to understand the internals behind some of them such as jQuery, you'll learn a lot from it if you do. Or if you're doing book reading I would recommend either Resig, Nicolas Zakas plus a little Crockford and maybe some Flanagan. Though if you go with one go with Professional Javascript by Zakas as it's the most modern, thorough, complete combination.

Originally Posted by kohoutek

Another language I'd like to look into is Python. But that's it as far as my goals are concerning programming/scripting languages.

Yes yes yes I definitely recommend Python, it's very similar to ECMAScript in that both are lexically scoped, object oriented, ECMAScript was influenced by Python heavily.

There's a lot less to type since it isn't a common braces and semicolons language, it's cleaner and the code is more consistent because you're forced to indent properly.

See my answer here for other small differences between the two:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...786584#1786584

[kohoutek]

Thanks for your response, SoulScratch!

I didn't really mean that the JS frameworks are lame. I use many of them. It's more that I'm lame for being relatively okay with using them, know a bit here and there but have insufficient knowledge about the scripting language they were built on. I think that's really problematic. So, I'm going to properly and thoroughly learn JS first. I can always take advantage of frameworks, but I'd have more fun with them if I knew how they worked within the core.

I didn't know Python and JS (or ECMAScript) were similar. But now you're making me want to start even earlier. I'll read your answers on stackoverflow.

PS: I use Crockford (the online book) and also Flanagan's Definitive Guide as well as Dom Scripting by Keith. Oh, and I also have the Anthology. I think I just need to act now.

Danke!

[Shaun(OfTheDead)]

I have five year website goals, but not specifically "programming" goals.

Programming is a necessary evil for me. I don't enjoy it very much, but I do enjoy creating new websites and ideas.

[php_daemon]

Uh... probably to shamefully be stripped of the name of programming language from my screen name.

[AlexDawson]

SoulScratch, that's one heck of a list, do you think you can achieve all that in such a relatively short space of time? Mastering a single programming language usually takes a number of years, becoming a master of all trades (as you seem to be aiming for) would require almost "godlike" abilities

[SoulScratch]

Originally Posted by AlexDawson

SoulScratch, that's one heck of a list, do you think you can achieve all that in such a relatively short space of time?

Probably not, but I'll try my best .

Originally Posted by AlexDawson

Mastering a single programming language usually takes a number of years, becoming a master of all trades (as you seem to be aiming for) would require almost "godlike" abilities

Motivation helps - that and learning from the right people, I usually always try to learn something entirely new every day - a design pattern, program, shortcut in vim, something useful.

I'll also have to drastically cut down the amount of time I help other people and answering trivial, repetitive questions which can be solved by 5 minutes and some googling, I think that would leave me with much more time to learn. That and start asking more experienced devs ( on stackoverflow and a few irc channels ) questions on a constant basis. Plus one of those people I listed is pretty much my mentor/personal yoda who I always go to for advice - will have to harass him even more haha.

[AlexDawson]

Originally Posted by SoulScratch

I'll also have to drastically cut down the amount of time I help other people and answering trivial, repetitive questions which can be solved by 5 minutes and some googling, I think that would leave me with much more time to learn.

Too much time being spent on here? It's like exchanging one addiction for another!

[SoulScratch]

Originally Posted by AlexDawson

Too much time being spent on here? It's like exchanging one addiction for another!

Well I rarely visit SP nowadays, was addicted for the first few months of this year but I pretty much learned more on Stackoverflow in say 3 months than I have in the past 2-3 years on all other forums combined strictly because of the expertise ( not trying to advertise ) - and I meant cutting myself from answering on there too, and instead working on applications.

[wiggsfly]

5 years, well, in 5 years I'd like to have a better grasp on what makes a language. Anyone can learn to work in a new language so learning the underlying fundamentals would be something new and interesting for me.

In addition, I'd like to be more officially involved in some of the large OSS projects out there.

[RyanReese]

Learn enough CSS to be a master.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by RyanReese

Learn enough CSS to be a master.

Haha, I knew that was coming. :P

Alex

[sofiawmr]

I want to learn Java and PHP within next year

[JREAM]

Great posts. I have found when OOP makes sense it seems like every other programming language seems to make more sense as well. I want to learn C/C++ or JAVA. I am playing with the C's at the moment.

Wigglsfly thats very cool. I think that would be quite intense. Although I think PHP is written in C, wonder how many others are.
Many people here seem to have a thirst for knowledge, i like it