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    I have two questions -

    Does anyone know where to find older versions of browsers (like IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0) for testing sites - and how to install them on your computer so that you can use them, but they are not overwritten by the "latest version"? In lieu of that, any suggestions on how you test for older browsers (aside from understanding intellectually what is supported by what, or using the test feature in something like DW...)

    Also - um, how do you disable javascript in your browser?
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    http://browsers.evolt.org/ is a good resource of older browsers. most old versions can be installed alongside their new version. the most notable exception is IE, which only allows a single version to be installed in a windows environment.

    as for javascript, look into your browser's preferences...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBanks
    I have two questions -

    Does anyone know where to find older versions of browsers (like IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0) for testing sites - and how to install them on your computer so that you can use them, but they are not overwritten by the "latest version"? In lieu of that, any suggestions on how you test for older browsers (aside from understanding intellectually what is supported by what, or using the test feature in something like DW...)

    Also - um, how do you disable javascript in your browser?
    Go to Old Version.com for well, old versions. You cannot test in IE. Once you install the new version it over writes the old. You are able to with Netscape. Although I did read somewhere (I think in PC Magazine) how to test in older versions of IE, I'll look in to that.

    For JavaScript disabling, it's different with each browser what are you using? Usually it's under Internet Options or Preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmerB
    For JavaScript disabling, it's different with each browser what are you using? Usually it's under Internet Options or Preferences.
    well, I found it in Opera, but I can't seem to find it for IE 6

    looked in Internet Options - all tabs, particularly the 'advanced' where you can check preferences...I must be missing it

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    Tools>Internet Options>Security>Custom Level>Scripting>Disable

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    Found it! My advice, very complicated, don't bother. Just go to any library (they never upgrade until the browser is at least 6 years old) and test your web pages on their old out of date machines...

    http://w3.z-add.co.uk/article/articleview/5/1/9/

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    Netscape themselves offer downloads of their old versions from http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive.html (which is linked from the main browser download page on their site, as "product archive")

    IE as it is "part of the operating system", is embedded so deeply into Windows that it is all but impossible to install more than one version on the same machine (unless you mess around with multi-boot, or Virtual Machines, or somesuch)

    Be aware that Mozilla-based browsers (netscape 6/7, mozilla) don't like sharing the same user profile - unpleasant things can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blufive
    Be aware that Mozilla-based browsers (netscape 6/7, mozilla) don't like sharing the same user profile - unpleasant things can happen.
    I found that out the hard way.

    I now have Mozilla 1.4a (nightly build) and Netscape 6.2 running on the same machine, after learning how to use separate profiles: "C:\...path..." -p profile_name.
    I also have Phoenix installed, but thankfully Phoenix doesn't share profiles with Mozilla/Netscape.

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    Can anyone go into a little detail about creating different profiles, so Mozilla-based browsers can co-exist on the same machine? Thanks.
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    Find your way to the dialog that asks which profile you want to use. (start menu->mozilla->profile manager on windows) click "manage profiles".

    Create/edit/delete/rename/tweak your profiles to your heart's content.

    Then, just make sure you use a different profile for each browser/version. You can either live dangerously and select manually each time, or create shortcuts with the -P command line switch:

    "c:/[...]/mozilla.exe" -P profile1

    Note that it's an upper case "P".

    Oh, and I suspect that having more than one mozilla browser actually running at once is BAAAAD, mm'kay?
    Last edited by blufive; Apr 3, 2003 at 13:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blufive
    Find your way to the dialog that asks which profile you want to use. (start menu->mozilla->profile manager on windows) click "manage profiles".

    Create/edit/delete/rename/tweak your profiles to your heart's content.

    Then, just make sure you use a different profile for each browser/version. You can either live dangerously and select manually each time, or create shortcuts with the -P command line switch:

    "c:/[...]/mozilla.exe" -P profile1

    Note that it's an upper case "P".

    Oh, and I suspect that having more than one mozilla browser actually running at once is BAAAAD, mm'kay?

    Thank you, Blufive, That was what I was looking for.
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