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    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
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    This must be every webmaster's worst Nightmare:

    Once upon a time... you booted op your PC, intending to start working on a site. But then... nothing happens after the hardware check. Suddenly you see black smoke coming from the inside of the PC. You turn of the power and wait till no more smoke is coming from the inside.

    You open the case and what do you see? The whole inside of the PC seems to be burned out, including the HD...

    Back behind a spare PC you're glad that you made a backup yesterday, or didn't you?
    On the tape is nothing but some gibberish, probably it was too much times used and is totally weared down now.

    You just shrugs and start the FTP client. 'Unable to resolve host' you get all the time. so you take a look at the site of your host. There you learn that the FTP server will be down for some time due to some 'upgrading and other services'.

    Luckily you know the phone number of the hosting company and you decide to call them to ask whether they can make a backup of your site so that you can drop by to to take it with you.

    Oops... it seems like the site has been accidently erased... all the files gone and nothing to save...

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    So... what would you do if such a disaster would happen to you?

    Would you just quit?
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    It depends.

    I think I would be upset, but what kind of site are we talking here Elledan?

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    Originally posted by RussellG
    It depends.

    I think I would be upset, but what kind of site are we talking here Elledan?

    A HUGE site, something like SitePoint/CNet. Really big thus...
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    I'm not really sure what I would do...if I lost all of the 40gb+ data I have on my HD right now I would probably get really sad and depressed
    I once had a major HD disaster and lost about 4Gb of stuff...luckily it was replaceable without too much work.


    I really must get that backup plan I made going...

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    @russellg RussellG's Avatar
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    Well I'd be devestated, if I ran a site like that, it probaly would have taken me a long time do it.

    It's not like you can start all over again with something like that...

    And what would you tell your advertisers? or the community you (may have), all gone to ruin.

    It would be a sad day, I can tell you that.
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    I have had 2 occassions when I have lost stuff, and let me tell you they are depressing. The first one was very similar to what was described above, my CPU blew up and took a few things with it! I lost ALL my owrk from my University degree including my final year project. The last one was about 2 months ago. My hardrive is partitioned and I lost one of the partitions. Most of the stuff I would never have used again, but you get sentimental you know. The worst was that I am currently near completing teaching certificate and all my coursework was on there. Well, what can I do. I paid a lot of money to do it at night school and I am just going to have to do it all again, it is a year's worth of work!

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    i'd go to google and get some of it from their cache.

    then i'd do nothing with it and probably sleep or something.

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    Very smart, Martin!

    I hadn't even thought of that...
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    Don't get too close, I bite! Nicky's Avatar
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    Sleep!
    How can you even think about sleeping?

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    Sleep is good! I love to sleep!


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    Originally posted by LuZeR
    Sleep is good! I love to sleep!

    Yes, I do, too! Waking up at 5:40 every morning stinks!

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    I'd probably start over. I am still in school...so it's not like my life depends on it (Matt M. depends on SP to live).

    If I was dependant on the site, I'd probably go find an offline job until I can put myself together...then start over.

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    I'd kick myself and bang my head against the wall a few times. I'd go out and party all night and get really drunk...


    Then I would take my HD to the best data recovery specialist. I would also drop by the hosting company and take their HD for data recovery... I would also find a new hosting company.

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    Yea that was smart luzer.

    I have thought about this happening. I would probably just curl up and die. If I lost everything? Do you know the feeling of your computer not starting up and not having a backup. I do and I was fianlly able to get the computer up and running, but it was horrible. I really need to sort out this whole back up issue. Does anyone know a reliable program that is free and will run scheduled back ups?

    Anyways, that would be the worst if that happened. I mean...school work, client sites, mp3's, sedimental things like saved im's, all your things you rely on but dont think of like settings or programs you have gotten. i dunno. i just know it would suck.

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    SitePoint Enthusiast Sparklit's Avatar
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    Btw .... you guys might want to try some online backup schemes such as @backup or connected

    The encrypt and archive your files on the web and can be retrieved fairly easily...

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    SitePoint Wizard jumpthru's Avatar
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    Way, WAY, WAAAAAAY to slow to upload 500 megabites every week. Let alone the fact you cant get an account that offers 500 megs. Plus it is SO slow.

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    SitePoint Enthusiast Sparklit's Avatar
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    You can get accounts that offer gigs of storage. Its only slow the first time you upload. After that most programs only upload the bits on your hard drive that have changed since the last backup. Most programs also work at night or in the background utilizing your bandwidth when you are not using it. Most programs compress and ecnrypt data making backups smaller and more secure. Online backup is not meant to backup an entire 40GB HD, however, it does a very good job of backing up documents/emails/programs/ and other important files.

    We have been using a daily online backup scheme for months at my company and it has worked very well. We also burn the data onto CDs daily. Granted we do have a Computer and Cable Modem dedicated to the backup.

    In the past I ran backup software in the background on my personal computer and it worked very well. Never found it slow at all.

    In this case Elledan would have had a backup of his site, emails bookmarks etc. By re-installing the programs and downloading these files he would have been able to recover fairly well from the crash.

    Its a good deal since some of these services can be had for as little as $5/month...

    Also, many of these services store multiple backups going back for months. A great way to recover from human error as well.


    Here is a good article regarding the subject

    http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,397225,00.html

    Kind of out-dated though.

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    IMO the best ways to backup your data is to use a tape- or zipdrive.

    I know one thing for sure if I would lose all of my data: my life would be miserable for the next few years...

    BTW I'm thinking about buying a tapedrive to make those necessary backups. Any recommendations for a cheap, reliable one?
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    Originally posted by Elledan
    IMO the best ways to backup your data is to use a tape- or zipdrive.

    I know one thing for sure if I would lose all of my data: my life would be miserable for the next few years...

    BTW I'm thinking about buying a tapedrive to make those necessary backups. Any recommendations for a cheap, reliable one?
    On any component with moving parts (hard drive, floppy drive, tape drive) there is no such thing as cheap and reliable in the same device.

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    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
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    Originally posted by W. Luke
    Originally posted by Elledan
    IMO the best ways to backup your data is to use a tape- or zipdrive.

    I know one thing for sure if I would lose all of my data: my life would be miserable for the next few years...

    BTW I'm thinking about buying a tapedrive to make those necessary backups. Any recommendations for a cheap, reliable one?
    On any component with moving parts (hard drive, floppy drive, tape drive) there is no such thing as cheap and reliable in the same device.

    <sigh> Yeah, I know that, Wayne and thanks for reminding me...

    I meant to say that I didn't want a tapedrive that will cost me $500 or more, since that's far beyond the borders of my budget
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    Your Lord and Master, Foamy gold trophy Hierophant's Avatar
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    For home use you can get a 14 GB internal Colorado drive from Hewlett Packard for less than $250 dollars. This should more than cover your needs.

    You could also purchase a CD-RW drive for around $150 dollars and use it to copy to. CD blank's hold less of course but they only cost on average of 20 cents a piece.
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    I don't know what I would do exactly...I'm working on several sites right now, so It depends on which one.

    Assuming that ALL sites I'm working on are totally gone, I would probably eat a lot of junk food for a day or so, and then the next day I'd use the opportunity to start fresh so to speak, and map out some of the site work better. Obviously it's virtually impossible that my computer will blow up, no backups will be available, and my host will have a meltdown all at once...I've got some important files spread over 3 or 4 computers anyway if I need them.

    It would kill me for awhile, but I wouldn't be able to stay away for long...I'm very much attached to this kind of work now. And of course I would post here on SitePoint so I could bask in the pity.

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    Originally posted by W. Luke
    For home use you can get a 14 GB internal Colorado drive from Hewlett Packard for less than $250 dollars. This should more than cover your needs.

    You could also purchase a CD-RW drive for around $150 dollars and use it to copy to. CD blank's hold less of course but they only cost on average of 20 cents a piece.
    Ok, thanks for your help, Wayne!

    I'll check out the local PC-shop to see whether they've this tapedrive. Else I'll just have to buy via the 'net.
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    Don't forget about a little thing called FIRE!!

    A FIRE will take out your computer and ALL of your tape/cd/jazz/zip backups with it... its nice to have an off-site backup...

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    Originally posted by Elledan
    IMO the best ways to backup your data is to use a tape- or zipdrive.

    I know one thing for sure if I would lose all of my data: my life would be miserable for the next few years...

    BTW I'm thinking about buying a tapedrive to make those necessary backups. Any recommendations for a cheap, reliable one?
    I use my CD-RW for backup. I use a software called "Backup Plus" and it can be configured to backup certain files or folders as often as I'd like. I usually back my non-replaceable files (address book, bookmarks, etc.) up once a week.


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