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    Quote Originally Posted by certificates View Post
    Thanks for this. It works in Chrome & FF, but with a drawback that all of the phrases have a purple and white border around them.

    On IE, the words from the first five columns appear to have moved to the left with the wording from the first column being out of the box and column five being empty.

    The jumbled mess though is solved perfectly

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    Antony, THE TEST CODE IS NOT MEANT TO BE PLUGGED INTO YOUR PAGES AS-IS. THE CSS IS INCOMPLETE AND NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH.

    I am working on "cutover" instructions right now and compatible css. PLEASE BE PATIENT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by certificates View Post
    Thanks for this. It works in Chrome & FF, but with a drawback that all of the phrases have a purple and white border around them.

    On IE, the words from the first five columns appear to have moved to the left with the wording from the first column being out of the box and column five being empty.

    The jumbled mess though is solved perfectly

    Thanks

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    Antony, the purple borders are part of the TEST PAGE. NOT MEANT OTHERWISE. I think you are mixing the css in the test page with existing css. It will not work. Please be patient. I will send workable code to you shortly with instructions for implementing it.

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    Antony,

    This is the code for a working ed6 page. It is not quite the same as your original. Please try it exactly as-is. It will not look normal until we modify the css.

    Make the similar HTML tables on the other pages look just like this by (1) adding classes to the last 3 columns in each row, (2) by removing the class="col9" from the column 9 <p> tag, and (3) by removing id="col9" from the <th> tag in the first row.
    (4) IMPORTANT! ADD the IE specific code just above the </head> tag to all pages that use the rotated text. THAT IS Paul's code for IE8- AND IS NOT OPTIONAL.

    The other pages will have a paragraph in row3 col9 whereas this page has a list. OK? If you can't live with the list, then keep your existing paragraph full of break tags. The list is better, though.

    I would be grateful if you would use this page instead of transferring the changes to your existing page. The indented code is much easier to read. If you can't live with that, so be it.

    The HTML must be modified on all of the similar "ed" pages for the css to style the table.test properly.

    css changes will follow shortly.

    Code:
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html lang="en">
    <head>
        <title>The 1891 Census of Hartshead Enumeration District 6</title>
        <meta charset="utf-8">
        <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.c5d.co.uk/censusstyle.css" type="text/css" media="screen">
        <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.c5d.co.uk/censusdropdownmenu.css" type="text/css" media="screen">
        <script src="http://www.c5d.co.uk/mootools-1.2.5-core-yc.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
        <script src="http://www.c5d.co.uk/MenuMatic_0.68.3.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
    <!--[if lte IE 8]>
    <style type="text/css">
    p.rotate {
        writing-mode: tb-rl;
        filter: flipv fliph;
        display:inline-block;
        *display:inline;
        zoom:1.0;
        letter-spacing:1px;
        width:auto;
    }
    </style>
    <![endif]-->
    </head>
    <body>
    <script type="text/javascript">
        window.addEvent('domready', function() {
            var myMenu = new MenuMatic();
        });
    </script>
    <div id="wrapper">
        <div id="container" class="container">
    <!-- BEGIN menu.php INCLUDE -->
    <?php include $_SERVER["DOCUMENT_ROOT"] . "/includes/menu.php"; ?>
    <!-- END menu.php INCLUDE -->
            <h1>Your Certificates in 5 Days ?</h1>
            <p class="one">There is another way. <A href="http://www.c5d.co.uk">Certificates in 5 Days (C5D)</a> Why not give me a try ?</p>
            <div id="advert1">
                <a href="http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-5433512-10520381" target="_top">
                    <img src="http://www.awltovhc.com/image-5433512-10520381" width="264" height="60" alt="234x60: I am, your Nan" border="0">
                </a>
            </div>
    <!--START MERCHANT:merchant name Find My Past from affiliatewindow.com.-->
            <div id="advert2">
                <a href="http://www.awin1.com/cread.php?s=265538&amp;v=2114&amp;q=126749&amp;r=127588">
                    <img src="http://www.awin1.com/cshow.php?s=265538&amp;v=2114&amp;q=126749&amp;r=127588" width="264" height="60" alt="264x60" border="0">
                </a>
            </div>
    <!--END MERCHANT:merchant name Find My Past from affiliatewindow.com-->
            <div class="buttonHolder">
                <button style="width:200;height:30" onClick="window.location='http://www.c5d.co.uk/ed61891.php'">Go to the 1891 Census</button>
            </div>
            <p class="censusofenglandandwales1911">CENSUS OF ENGLAND AND WALES 1891</p>
            <table class="table-3">
                <tr><!-- Row 1 -->
                    <td>Registration District</td> <!-- Col 1 -->
                    <td>Ashton Under Lyne</td> <!-- Col 2 -->
                    <td>Enumeration District, No. </td> <!-- Col 3 -->
                    <td>6</td> <!-- Col 4 -->
                </tr>
                <tr> <!-- Row 2 -->
                    <td>Registration Sub District</td> <!-- Col 1 -->
                    <td>Hartshead</td> <!-- Col 2 -->
                    <td>Name of Enumerator, Mr.</td> <!-- Col 3 -->
                    <td>Henry Charlesworth</td> <!-- Col 4 -->
                </tr>
            </table>
            <p class="local">DESCRIPTION OF ENUMERATION DISTRICT</p>
            <p class="tobefilled">[The description of the District is to be written in by the Enumerator in Column 9c from the copy supplied to him by the Registrar. Any explanatory notes or observations calculated to make the description clearer or more complete, may be added by the Enumerator. It is especially necessary that the names of the various Local Sub-Divisions should be inserted in Columns 1 to 8.]</p>
            <table class="test">
                <tr>
                    <th scope="col">Cols:&nbsp;1</th>
                    <th scope="col">2</th>
                    <th scope="col">3</th>
                    <th scope="col">4</th>
                    <th scope="col">5</th>
                    <th scope="col">6</th>
                    <th class="col7" scope="col">7</th>
                    <th class="col8" scope="col">8</th>
                    <th class="col9" scope="col">9</th>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                    <td>Civil Parish</td>
                    <td>Municipal Borough</td>
                    <td>Municipal Ward</td>
                    <td>Urban Sanitary District</td>
                    <td>Town or Village, or Hamlet</td>
                    <td>Rural Sanitary District</td>
                    <td class="col7">Parliamentary Borough or Division</td>
                    <td class="col8">Ecclesiastical Parish or District</td>
                    <td class="col9"></td>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                    <td><p class="rotate">Ashton Under Lyne</p></td>
                    <td><p class="rotate">&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;</p></td>
                    <td><p class="rotate">&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;</p></td>
                    <td><p class="rotate">&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;</p></td>
                    <td><p class="rotate">&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;</p></td>
                    <td><p class="rotate">Hartshead Prestwich Division</p></td>
                    <td class="col7"><p class="rotate"><span class="strike">Christ Church Ashton Under Lyne</span><br>Holy Trinity Bardsley</p></td>
                    <td class="col8"><p class="rotate">Christ Church Ashton Under Lyne<br>Holy Trinity Bardsley</p></td>
                    <td class="col9">
                        <ul>
                            <li>Parsonage</li>
                            <li>Lordsfield</li>
                            <li>Taunton Road</li>
                            <li>Newmarket Road</li>
                            <li>Oldham Road</li>
                            <li>Store Street</li>
                            <li>Langham Street</li>
                            <li>Gordon Street</li>
                            <li>Oaken Clough</li>
                            <li>Buckley Street</li>
                            <li>Wilshaw Road</li>
                            <li>Limehurst</li>
                        </ul>
                    </td>
                </tr>
            </table>
            <div class="buttonHolder">
                <button style="width:150;height:30" ONCLICK="window.location.href='http://www.c5d.co.uk/ed61891.php'"> View the 1891 Census</button>
            </div>
        </div>
        <p class="copy">&copy;C5D-Certificates</p>
    </div>
    </body>
    </html>
    Cheers

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    Line 146 on your css sheet is the beginning of the table.test code.

    DELETE everthing from that line through the end of the page and replace it with the following css.

    (NOTE: Not everything was modified but most was.)

    Code:
    /* TABLE.test */
    .test {
        table-layout:auto;
        width:950px;
        border-spacing:3px;
        margin:0px auto;
    }
    .test th,
    .test td {
        width:9%;
        border:1px solid #000;
        text-align:center;
        vertical-align:middle;
        padding:2px 0 1px;
    }
    .test th.col7,
    .test td.col7 {width:11%;}
    .test th.col8,
    .test td.col8 {width:11%;}
    .test th.col9,
    .test td.col9 {width:24%;}
    
    /* TEXT */
    .test p {
        margin:.2em .1em .4em;
    }
    .test p.rotate {
        display:inline-block;
        -webkit-transform:rotate(-90deg);
        -moz-transform:rotate(-90deg);
        -ms-transform:rotate(-90deg);
        transform:rotate(-90deg);
        line-height:1.5;
        white-space:nowrap;
        letter-spacing:1px;
        margin:0 -111px;
    }
    
    /* LIST */
    .test ul {
        list-style-type:none;
        padding:4px 0 6px;
        margin:0;
    }
    .test li {
        margin:5px auto;
    }
    
    /* MISC */
    .strike {
        text-decoration:line-through;
        display:inline;
    }
    .csstest {
        display:inline;
        vertical-align:super;
    }
    This has been tested with the pages ed1, ed4, ed6, and ed12.

    If this, in combination with the HTML changes, doesn't fix table.test, let me know.

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    Thanks for the message.

    I am very happy to be patient. After all you guys have done for me, some of it very late at night I guess, and gratis, how could I be anything but. I just thought that you might value the feedback

    I shall await your "final design"

    Thanks

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    You mean you haven't received a bill yet????


    Everything that I have written has been posted. I would have preferred for Paul to weigh in on my code, since I've never delt with rotated text before AND never run into that Firefox anomaly, either, so there is plenty of room for errors of inexperience in this particular problem.

    Anyway, if something doesn't work as desired, let us know.

    Thanks.

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    So far I have done with with ED6.

    I have posted your code as is, and altered the CSS from line 146 as you said.

    It works perfectly in Chrome and Firefox, but in IE the first fiv columns appear to have shunted to the lwft with the result that col 5 is empty and the that words from col 1 are outside the box

    Have I not done it right ?


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    I guess I must have done it wrong because having now done ED1, All the text from the first 6 columns has moved left too.

    It was a good test though to include the wrong php include in your code !! Testing me to see if I was awake (;-)))

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    Oops, sorry about the php code. I copied it from an old note. Glad you spotted it. What is the correct call?

    This must be a problem with IE9. IE8 and Firefox render the page perfectly. Do you have Chrome? Can you compare Firefox with Chrome?

    No, I don't see that you've done anything wrong. It's most likely a problem with my css and cross browser compatibility. I'll keep tinkering, but I do need to get some sleep now. It's after 5am local time.

    Thanks,
    Ron

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    Yes do have some sleep.

    I have chrome ff and ie. In ie some of the columns shunt left. In th eother two they are fine but on some of the ed's col 9 is narrow and others not

    That suggests I haven't done evrything quite right either

    Thanks again

    Antony

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    Yes, the HTML is important, and the IE compatibility piece near the top of the page is vital. It is OK to update the HTML on all of the pages. The only page that will look funny is ed6 because of the list code and you can always copy and paste the list piece from my css into your css and that will get rid of the bullets.

    I just had an idea...

    Just for fun, please make the following changes to two properties in my css and try it again.
    FROM:
    Code:
    .test p.rotate {
        display:inline-block;
        margin:0 -111px;
    }
    TO:
    Code:
    .test p.rotate {
        display:block;
        margin:0 -92px;
    }

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    I have done that thanks and it does the trick

    However I have had to change it to -45px; My site is now exactly how I want it to be with the exception of one or validation errors which I suspect are really resolvable because it is from Paypal and XE.com

    This is the page.http://www.c5d.co.uk/scotland.php

    I guess it is better to post a new thread

    Thanks all of you for your help, it has been absolutely great. Prompt and clear.

    I am glad I joined this group, it has been a great experience

    Antony

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    Antony, PLEASE check the css again. The column widths are out of whack.

    Code:
    .test p.rotate {
        display:inline-block;    /* HAS NOT CHANGED YET */
        margin:0 -45px;      /* not cross-browser compatible */
    CHANGE TO THIS
    Code:
    .test p.rotate {
        display:block;
        margin:0 -90px;
    IN ADDITION: This was missed!
    ---------------------------
    Look at Row3 Column9 on ALL PAGES.
    VERIFY that class="col9" is assigned to the <td> tag, NOT to the <p> tag.

    Page ed11891 Row1 Column6 has a stray ">" mark beside the number 6

    Take care,
    Ron

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    I have now done this, and everything looks OK.

    Thanks for that additional adjustment.

    It finishes it off great

    Antony

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    Good work Ron

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpat View Post
    Antony, this test page is not a plug-n-play fit for your ed6 page. That will come later.

    @Paul O'B , I would be grateful if you would voice your take on this test page or the issue in general.
    Sorry for the late reply but been busy with a project last night and looking after 3 grandkids today so not much time on my hands
    The problem was that the rotated text was not vertically centered in the table cells.

    Yes that was the issue I ran into and the reason I forced the width of the cell in my last example. The width forces the content to be centred and will hold multiple wrapping lines until they overflow the width.

    In your example the negative margins effectively do the same thing as the width I applied and if you have longer lines then they will overflow the height of the table because of the white-space:nowrap rule you have in place. If you remove the white-space:nowrap rule the text will wrap naturally but as in my example it will overflow the width.

    The thing you need to remember is that although the text is rotated the layout should not be affected so the cells will look like they would had the text not been rotated.

    specifically:

    In the HTML namespace, the transform property does not affect the flow of the content surrounding the transformed element. However, the extent of the overflow area takes into account transformed elements. This behavior is similar to what happens when elements are offset via relative positioning. Therefore, if the value of the ‘overflow’ property is ‘scroll’ or ‘auto’, scrollbars will appear as needed to see content that is transformed outside the visible area.

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    Antony,

    My last "Try this" idea was not the best. The original css was essentially correct.

    The following changes will make your page render properly in IE 8 and 9, FF 18, and Chrome 23.


    (1) Please change the following lines in your css...

    censusstyle.css - Line 172
    Code:
    .test p.rotate {
        display:inline-block;      /* was:  display:block; */
        white-space:nowrap;    /* Delete.  Not necessary. */

    ALSO, at the bottom of the css sheet, ADD a semicolon after the the word "super" and put a close curly brace on the next line (they were missed when you copied my code).


    (2) Make the following HTML changes on ALL pages that use this rotated text:

    From:
    Code:
    <!--[if lte IE 8]>
    <style type="text/css">
    p.rotate {
        writing-mode: tb-rl;
        filter: flipv fliph;
        display:inline-block;
        *display:inline;
        zoom:1.0;
        letter-spacing:1px;
        width:auto;
    }
    </style>
    <![endif]-->
    To:
    Code:
    <!--[if lte IE 8]>
    <style type="text/css">
    .test p.rotate {
        writing-mode: tb-rl;
        filter: flipv fliph;
        display:inline-block;
        *display:inline;
        zoom:1.0;
    }
    </style>
    <![endif]-->
    <!--[if IE 9]>
    <style type="text/css">
    .test p.rotate {
        display:block;
    }
    </style>
    <![endif]-->

    (3) REMINDER: Please CHANGE the HTML on the bottom row, last column of table class="test" on ALL of these pages:

    From:
    Code:
    <td><p class="col9">
    To:
    Code:
    <td class="col9"><p>

    (4) I recommend the following css change to remove IE's default border from around anchor images:

    censusstyle.css - Line 117
    From:
    Code:
    a img {display:block;}
    To:
    Code:
    a img {display:block; border:0;}

    (5) Picky HTML details (treatment for insomnia):

    (5-A) On the HTML pages, Row 3, Columns 1, 7 & 8, you can delete the "&nbsp;"s if you wish; they are harmless but unnecessary. A little more work for the browser to do.

    (5-B) Likewise, in Column 4, you can delete the string of "&nbsp;" preceeding the "U". They are moving the string "U S D" a little off center.

    (5-C) Near the bottom of the HTML page, delete the red code because it is invalid code (it contains no units of measure) and is not doing anything at all. The buttons are being rendered at their default dimensions.
    Code:
    <button style="width:150;height:30" ONCLICK.....

    (6) Gee Wiz:

    For my notes: What is the php code that you are using to call the drop-down menu code?

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    Thanks for this additional help.

    I have done it all thanks

    When you say call the drop down menu code is this what you mean ?

    <!-- BEGIN menu.php INCLUDE -->
    <?php include $_SERVER["DOCUMENT_ROOT"] . "/c5dincludes/c5dmenu.php"; ?>
    <!-- END menu.php INCLUDE -->

    Or did you mean the URL of the drop down menu ? www.c5d.co.uk/c5dmenu.php

    Thanks

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    Wow, Antony, that was really quick! Looks good in all of the browsers on my PC, too! Unless someone reports an unanticipated problem, I think we can call this a wrap. Thanks very much for your patience and for putting up with my re-dos. It has been a great learning experience for me.

    When I sent a recent post, you mentioned that I had "tested" you by including the wrong php code on the page. I just want to update my notes in case it's needed again. Thanks a bunch!

    I may go to bed before dawn tonight.

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    OK, that's when I get up, just before dawn !

    Are you any good on HTML e mails ?

    That's my only outstanding task for this project

    Have a good sleeo

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    No, I have no experience with HTML e-mails, like newsletters. I can work with tables comfortably enough, so if you have a formatting problem, I should be able to pitch in; but otherwise, I'm probably useless. I feel sure you will find help in the HTML forum, though.

    Best to You, Antony.

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    Well, I did post there and all I got really was that i couldn't be done.

    http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/show...l&goto=newpost

    What I want to do is use the drop down menu bit of the web pages you have contributed to at the top of the E Mail.

    I tried to put it in a table but all the formatting has disappeared. My efforts are at www.c5d.co.uk/test.html

    I just want a starter so that I can try it. BUT NOT NOW when it's whatever time where you are !

    Antony

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    I will look into the HTML mail question tomorrow. So far, it does not look promising, though. The two gentlemen who responded to your message are the very ones I would have approached with such a question because of their experience. If they suggest that it's probably not worth the effort, or will most likely be unworkable, then I doubt I can improve on their prognosis... especially since I have zero experience with HTML e-mail. I will look at it, though, because it is something new to learn.

    On a different subject, do you remember the name of the font/s that are used on the image with your company name and address? It is a nice handwritten style and I would like to find it, if it's available for the PC.

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    The handwritings styles are as follows:

    1) Certificates in 5 Days is in Script MT Bold which is in Word 2010 where I designed the template before pasting into irfanview as an image

    2) The address is in Lucida Handwriting.

    Both are in bold and the Script is a very small font, so you may need to have it quite large

    I guess you didn't make it to bed before dawn then !

    Antony

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    Dawn is still several hours away. My time zone is UTC-5. It's 3am now.

    Thanks for the font info. I'll look those up, if I can. They seem quite legible.

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    Hey, Antony, what do you think of this "look" at the top of your site? The background color is a little lighter which, as @ralph.m mentioned, makes the page easier to read and makes your red logo considerably more visible. Lucida Handwriting apparently is not available in a native bold format, so I used an italicized serifed font instead. If you are interested in this or some variation thereof, let me know.

    Cheers

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