SitePoint Sponsor

User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 39
  1. #1
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Unhappy why don't i get clients?

    Hello all,
    I been doing freelancing and i don't get clients. despite scoring in top 10% and other test, i apply like 10-20 jobs and don't get reply. I don't know what is wrong. My typical cover letter is like any another, Greetings, then a sort description of my skills and my yrs of experience, then 2-3 links. and ending statement with the availability of being interview on skype.i am a freelance on odesk. Please share some thoughts.
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  2. #2
    Robert Wellock silver trophybronze trophy xhtmlcoder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    A Maze of Twisty Little Passages
    Posts
    6,316
    Mentioned
    60 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Have you ever asked them why they didn't respond (or you failed to impress, etc.) with a written follow-up letter/email? There could be a whole host of reasons and it might not be just down to the content of the cover letter.

  3. #3
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by xhtmlcoder View Post
    Have you ever asked them why they didn't respond (or you failed to impress, etc.) with a written follow-up letter/email? There could be a whole host of reasons and it might not be just down to the content of the cover letter.
    You cant contact directly with client, asking them why they didn't responded. they just have option of accepting or declining.
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  4. #4
    Robert Wellock silver trophybronze trophy xhtmlcoder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    A Maze of Twisty Little Passages
    Posts
    6,316
    Mentioned
    60 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I see you mean it is a like one of those Recruitment Companies where you sign a disclaimer that you don't contact/approach the client directly only when they; 'accept'.

    So by that reckoning they are just chucking your cover letter straight in the bin - so to speak. This is assuming they haven't had a bucket load of better offers, etc.

    I presume though it is not the only method and intermediary company you are using for freelancing? Still there can be plenty of reasons why they are checking; "decline".

    Albeit let's assume; the market isn't saturated, your skills nicely match the post/job, your portfolio fits, and the client hasn't had any decent web designers wanting the post/task. Then they get your letter correspondence but still refuse to even respond... Then maybe your marketing content, i.e. 'cover letter' could be better written?

    That is why you really need feedback even if you just send-out the same type of letter to some local firms, etc. Just purely for the 'content review' purpose.

  5. #5
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have good feedback. 4.90 rating. Top 10% in wordpress test. But i need to know why is it my jobs r declining
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  6. #6
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    here is my cover letter (one of them)
    Hello Hiring Manager,
    I am experienced web developer and designer and converted over 500 PSD/AI for different clients. I am well versed with WP, HTML, CSS ,JS , HTML5, CSS3. My turnaround time for this task will be 3-4 days.

    My latest project are as follows
    www.abc.com (psd to wp)
    http://www.xyz.com/ (psd to wp)

    I have more project to show you, if you desire. Furthermore i am available by email or skype, shall you desire for a interview. I am available 40 hours a week and can get started right away..Please have a look into my profile for my feedback and comments about me.

    Best Regards,
    nofel
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  7. #7
    It's all Geek to me silver trophybronze trophy
    ralph.m's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, AU
    Posts
    24,299
    Mentioned
    460 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by nofel View Post
    here is my cover letter (one of them)
    Not sure where you are submitting these, but the grammar and punctuation are not good, which can easily turn people off.

  8. #8
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ralph.m View Post
    Not sure where you are submitting these, but the grammar and punctuation are not good, which can easily turn people off.
    So you think its what setting them off? i hired a person for formatting.she made a good cover letter as she done master in english.still no reply.
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  9. #9
    SitePoint Zealot
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    140
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ralph.m View Post
    Not sure where you are submitting these, but the grammar and punctuation are not good, which can easily turn people off.
    Good grammar and punctuation will get you much farther on the consideration test. I would also suggest you do 3? cover letters, sort of an A/B test. Send your more standard cover letter to some jobs. do a second cover letter, the best way I can put this is read a book on self-publishing, the author wrote about how to advertise your book so it stands out from the crowd. Have your other cover letter be the type that stands out.

  10. #10
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    here is one with good english
    Dear Sir/Madame,
    My professional background has equipped me with solid practical skills combined with a deep understanding of Joomla, Wordpress, Web Development & Design. I am a Top 10% oDesk Wordpress contractor, with over 4 years' experience in Wordpress themes, designing, CSS, layout as well as cross-browser compatibility issues. I have developed over 10 Wordpress platforms, and more than 15 websites utilizing various platforms.
    My Computer Expertise: Top 10% in oDesk Wordpress online test, HTML, Email Campaign Templates, XHTML, CSS, Wordpress, Joomla, Weebly, Adobe Photoshop, illustrator, InDesign, Flash, PHP, MySQL and Google Analytics
    My Completed Projects:
    ..........
    ...........
    Having acquired an Diploma in xyz, I have an excellent track record producing outstanding results and meeting deadlines. I am available to dedicate more than 40 hours a week. Looking forward to hearing from you to discuss this project in detail.

    Sincerely,
    now. what is lacking?
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  11. #11
    SitePoint Zealot
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    140
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Telling the client what to do :-) Had an advertising person tell me this summer my ad lacked the Call to Action. And he was right :-)

    I would leave this line out. (I am a Top 10% oDesk Wordpress contractor).

    For your A/B test, would go a more hire me approach, Hire me and you are getting someone who is knowledgeable, available, and .....

    Michelle

  12. #12
    It's all Geek to me silver trophybronze trophy
    ralph.m's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, AU
    Posts
    24,299
    Mentioned
    460 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)
    Perhaps also try to focus on what benefit it will bring to the employer to hire you. The employers are not interested in you, but in what benefit there is for them. So perhaps focus explicitly on what they need and how hiring you will best meet that need.

    Off Topic:

    Your second letter is much better English, though note this:

    Having acquired an Diploma in xyz ... Looking forward to hearing from you
    should be

    Having acquired a Diploma in xyz ... I look forward to hearing from you

  13. #13
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    here is profile. do you think, something is wrong with it?
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  14. #14
    It's all Geek to me silver trophybronze trophy
    ralph.m's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, AU
    Posts
    24,299
    Mentioned
    460 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by nofel View Post
    here is profile.
    Oops:

    Quote Originally Posted by oDesk
    This contractor has restricted profile access to oDesk users only.

  15. #15
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sorry. have a look now.
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  16. #16
    Life is not a malfunction gold trophysilver trophybronze trophy
    TechnoBear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Argyll, Scotland
    Posts
    6,366
    Mentioned
    268 Post(s)
    Tagged
    5 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by nofel View Post
    Sorry. have a look now.
    It's still showing the restricted message.

  17. #17
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoBear View Post
    It's still showing the restricted message.
    sorry.the site was taking long enough to see the changes i made.now its visible
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  18. #18
    It's all Geek to me silver trophybronze trophy
    ralph.m's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, AU
    Posts
    24,299
    Mentioned
    460 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)
    The English could use some tidying up. Lines like this won't help you:

    I pride myself in my commendable expertise in creating ... cross-browser compatibility issues.
    That actually means that you cause problems.

    Here's a possible alternative:

    I am a skilled web designer, with expertise in front and backend development (HTML, CSS, PHP, MySQL). I also specialise in a range of content management systems—including WordPress, Magento, Adobe Business Catalyst and Weebly—and can assist with the building, debugging and project management of both new and existing sites. My work includes a dual focus on web standards and opportunities for maximum return on investment for websites and web apps. I am friendly, flexible and proactive, and look forward to working with you on your next project.
    This is just something I quickly knocked up and can probably be improved greatly. Perhaps others will help refine it.

    I do wonder, though, if this is the right focus for something like oDesk. What kinds of jobs are typically posted there? If they tend to be small items like a bit of debugging here or a tiny bit of coding here, it might be better to focus on how well you do that sort of thing. I don't know, as I'm unfamiliar with the site. Just a suggestion / question.

  19. #19
    SitePoint Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Philippines
    Posts
    4
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Write a sales pitch cover letter, this is very important the clients to know, how creative you are and how convincing your offer. It's like selling yourself, if these not work. Submit application all over again and be patience.

  20. #20
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Annabelle1 View Post
    Write a sales pitch cover letter, this is very important the clients to know, how creative you are and how convincing your offer. It's like selling yourself, if these not work. Submit application all over again and be patience.
    patience is that i had been doing but i want to have some reward if not much. how does a sales pitch cover letter differentiate from what i gave above as an example.
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  21. #21
    SitePoint Wizard bronze trophy
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Augusta, Georgia, United States
    Posts
    4,182
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)
    Time and time again on those types of freelance sites people are just looking for cheapest thing they can get. You are at a huge disadvantage on those sites because normally when people from certain other countries bid their bids are considerably less. I would stop relying on sites like that and either look for local work or possibly a full time position. Unless you live in India or some third world country your chances of taking down jobs for reasonable costs are just about nil on those types of sites.

    Also, from my understanding you are trying to pitch to business owners and people looking for web related services. Therefore, you need to word everything from the perspective that you are talking to those types of people. The existing wording sounds like something that would only relate to an engineer who knows what the technologies listed are. Most of things said though wouldn't make any sense to someone who is not in the web industry.

    You need to talk more about problems and how they were solved than the technology. Even going as far as discussing how such and such project lead to a increase in revenue, users or how your work ultimately enhanced a clients profits from a business perspective not a technical one.

    The short of it is you need to make certain that your cover letter or pitch is properly toned to the type of audience it will be addressing. From the sounds of things this seems like a non-technical crowd or people seeking web solutions for their business. So you need treat everything you say from pitches to email correspondance as such. That is very different than the way you would talk to an engineer.
    The only code I hate more than my own is everyone else's.

  22. #22
    SitePoint Zealot
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Portland
    Posts
    148
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You need to define keywords that catch the readers attention. You have to give them 3 basic things when they read your profile below points are listed.

    first: you must make them feel you are worth the money, So use big words such as Senior, Professional, Elite these words make you sounds better!.
    second: make them feel that you can build it all and be able to back it up while still staying with in the realistic.
    third: make them feel you are there for them when you need offer such things as 30 days free support, discounts, etc....
    coming soon sitejuju.com my new development portfolio

  23. #23
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jgetner View Post
    You need to define keywords that catch the readers attention. You have to give them 3 basic things when they read your profile below points are listed.

    first: you must make them feel you are worth the money, So use big words such as Senior, Professional, Elite these words make you sounds better!.
    second: make them feel that you can build it all and be able to back it up while still staying with in the realistic.
    third: make them feel you are there for them when you need offer such things as 30 days free support, discounts, etc....
    I did some changes. have a look , still i don't think i have a killer profile. i really wanna know. why on earth i don't get any application reply even after applying for good 15 jobs. not at least one.
    All those who wander aren't lost.

  24. #24
    #titanic {float:none} silver trophy
    molona's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    from Madrid to Heaven
    Posts
    8,259
    Mentioned
    245 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    To be honest, I don't appreciate much change between the previous and the new profile... Isn't skilled mastery a bit redundant? As redudant as WordPress.

    If you still want to follow with the same message, I would do a few changes (be aware the English is not my main language, though)

    Off Topic:

    "Over 5 years mastering in WordPress, Magento , Adobe Business Catalyst, HTML, CSS and other Web Development technologies. I have a deep knowledge of PHP, Weebly, MySQL and cross-browser compatibility issues. My core competencies can be applied to small/medium businesses. I am able to act as a Project Manager in larger developments, too. I am flexible and proactive. I find deep satisfaction in building websites and web apps that maximize the potential of your business and produce superior Return on Investment (ROI)"


    At least, it is not that repetitive

  25. #25
    SitePoint Wizard nofel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by molona View Post
    To be honest, I don't appreciate much change between the previous and the new profile... Isn't skilled mastery a bit redundant? As redudant as WordPress
    What you mean redundant.sorry english isn't my native language too
    All those who wander aren't lost.


Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •