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    REDACTED !

    And for their Flash based player

    http://mediafront.org/dashplayer/ind...l#.UHxyCHZZlaY

    It works fine on Firefox 16.0.1 and on Chromium 18.0

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    Yes, the file permissions are correct, it works fine on the smartphones with the HTML5 javascript based player.

    Also, this http://mediafront.org/dashplayer/ind...l#.UHx1Q3ZZlaZ works fine on Firefox 16.0.1 on Linux and on Chromium 18.0 on Linux.

    Only the HTML5 javascript based player http://mediafront.org/osmplayer/index.html#.UHx2TXikRxD does not work on Chromium 18.0

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    I have implemented the audio playback using another framework I just found about, namely the elegant soundmanager2 at http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/

    It can be seen on my website at http://www.learnintouch.com/elearnin.../subscription/

    Thanks to you all for your support !

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    My user is telling me he still has the issue of the player not playing the audio on his Firefox 15.0.1 on Windows.

    My Firefox 16.0.1 on Linux plays it fine, but I don't have a Windows box to test.

    Can any of you running Windows see if it plays ?

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    My mistake, the version of my user's Firefox is 12.0

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    Doesn't work on firefox 15.0.1 on w7.

    You should run windows in a virtual machine, it's not a good idea to not have access to the primary end user environment for testing.

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    Hi EastCoast, you are right, a test environment is quite useful, so I bought today a cheap used laptop with Windows on it and Firefox 12.0 and it behaves exactly as my user's showing the same issue. Now I have an environment that reproduces the issue. I also posted on the forum of the soundmanager framework at https://getsatisfaction.com/schillma...dio_file?rfm=1 as I thought they might be interested to know about it, but it seems the forum is not that active over there.

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    I notice there is a javascript error (this shows in chrome):
    TypeError: Cannot call method 'addEventListener' of null [http://www.learnintouch.com/elearnin...scription:564]

    and in firefox:
    TypeError: document.getElementById("playerStopButtonc38c") is null

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    Good point EastCoast, this null object was a side mistake of my latest coding, thanks.

    I wish this would have solved my issue :-)

    Cheers,

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    Might be worth installing the debug flash player see if the flash swf is throwing any exceptions. I'd still construct a basic test page to help troubleshoot.

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    It is working on my system

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    Quote Originally Posted by srsexperts View Post
    It is working on my system
    I understand you run Windows.

    Can I ask you the version number of your Firefox ?

    Thanks.

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    What file format(s) are being used when on Windows and Firefox 12? You need to find the video file formats supported on Firefox 12. Also (I can't remember) does Firefox 12 support HTML5 video elements? This may have nothing to do with the player and more to do with the lack of video support (either the codecs in Windows or the browser support).
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    My users only upload mp3 files. Firefox does not support mp3 for ethical questions. So the soundmanager2 framework has this fall back option of using a gui-less flash player to play these audio files when needed. At least, that is my understanding of it.

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    Just you install the plugin and use it its so simple dude...

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    I installed it and it was simple. It works on my Firefox on Linux boxes but not on the Firefox of my users on their Windows boxes.

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    From what I have been reading, Flash is on its way out and Adobe has cut support for all browsers except for Google Chrome. I've been having a time with flash on my older machine as well since it appears their last 'update' is more bloated and resource using than the last. (Who'd have thunk it?) It could be that is part of the problem your users are having accessing your flash video.

    http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/que.../935960?page=2

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/940068
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyflower View Post
    From what I have been reading, Flash is on its way out and Adobe has cut support for all browsers except for Google Chrome.
    While Adobe have stopped supporting the mobile plugin they are still committed to supplying the desktop player for common browsers. Most global stats providers still have flash on 95% of desktop computers, it's still by far the most universal cross-browser and platform agnostic way to embed audio visual media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoast View Post
    While Adobe have stopped supporting the mobile plugin they are still committed to supplying the desktop player for common browsers. Most global stats providers still have flash on 95% of desktop computers, it's still by far the most universal cross-browser and platform agnostic way to embed audio visual media.
    They have also discontinued support for Linux OS on all browsers except for Google Chrome. Apple product (Max OS X) users have reported problems as well. From what I have been reading, Adobe is putting their money into html5 animation. They do still support Windows and probably IE browser (I don't know this but it seems reasonable), but no longer offer a Firefox plugin (for Linux systems) or a plugin for the Chromium open source browser.

    With discontinued support for mobile (iPads and iPhones as well as Android), many flash developers are going bananas. Some are going to html5 and some are looking for solutions to flash problems due to Adobe's limited support. Additionally those with older machines who are still running XP are having problems with flash.

    http://www.tuxgarage.com/2012/02/ado...flash-for.html
    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/firefo...rash-fix/80305
    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1025317
    http://productforums.google.com/foru...Q/G5NMhSoRf_sJ
    https://brendaneich.com/2012/10/html5-video-update/
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1927122
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    The ironic thing is that the issue does not show up on my Linux box Firefox but only on the Windows Firefox.

    It is amazing that Adobe is ditching Flash like you say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephaneeybert View Post
    The ironic thing is that the issue does not show up on my Linux box Firefox but only on the Windows Firefox.

    It is amazing that Adobe is ditching Flash like you say...
    I think so too. And just as amazing they are ditching support for open source operating systems and going exclusively to Google Chrome which was developed from the Chromium open source browser which they have chosen to no longer support. But, instead of caring about the end user, they are looking for who's got the money.
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    They are continuing to work on the next generation flash engine, they have a whitepaper on their website detailing this, alongside developing html5 tools.

    For any commercial company it doesn't make sense to spend large amounts of resources for 1% of end users, who aren't interested in paying for software, and who have an almost religious hatred mentality against commercial and closed source software. But for every loud anti-flash hater spreading FUD, there are millions of people that use it happily every day without issues.

    A lot of flash developers now use the same skillset with adobe air for mobile apps, there are quite a few of the top selling app games are written using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoast View Post
    They are continuing to work on the next generation flash engine, they have a whitepaper on their website detailing this, alongside developing html5 tools.

    For any commercial company it doesn't make sense to spend large amounts of resources for 1% of end users, who aren't interested in paying for software, and who have an almost religious hatred mentality against commercial and closed source software. But for every loud anti-flash hater spreading FUD, there are millions of people that use it happily every day without issues.

    A lot of flash developers now use the same skillset with adobe air for mobile apps, there are quite a few of the top selling app games are written using it.
    Just because someone supports open source instead of proprietary software doesn't mean they get all of the open source software for free. There is a big difference between supporting open source development and just using it. True, the majority of users maybe don't support it monetarily but many also spend time and talent in development and bug reporting, something that both Google and Adobe use to their advantage.

    I am not against Adobe being a proprietary company. What I am against is that they don't even make flash a proprietary option for open for Linux users. Don't mean to run this thread too far off topic, but in my experience, although Adobe isn't one of them, when some proprietary companies do add their products to open source applications and os, they are often 'last year's models'.

    My other gripe about Adobe is that they fail in backwards compatibility for many people who run older systems. It's understandable that they want to innovate with new technologies and use new technologies that are out there, but they should also keep in mind that many of their customers don't run to buy the latest and greatest in either software or OS.
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    I didn't know I hosted a show :-)

    It is quite interesting in fact and informative as well.

    My modest wish is to see the mp3 file of my user being played back fine on Firefox in Windows. I hope the Adobe people can understand that request.

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    Okay, so it depends on which version of windows your user uses. AFIK, Flash works on all windows versions except for XP. If it isn't working on a later version than XP, then the problem could be with the Firefox version or it could be that the Flash version needs upgrading. I have also read (in some of the articles above) that some users have had to revert to older versions of Flash to get it to work with their Firefox version. I don't really think there is a simple solution at this time.
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