Hi All - I am in the process of designing my website in the hopes that I can learn how to do this effectively. I wanted to start my first site on the 960 grid system because it seems like a great way to start when learning CSS.

I'm hoping to get someones opinion on setting the boundary of my grid system. Right now I have a nav bar that wraps around my website container along with another ribbon wrap at the bottom. And the ribbons are throwing me off.



*I know this photo is on the right side and that my grid starts from the left, but pretend it was on the left.

My question is, where should I start my grid system? Does it start to include the ribbon or does it start at the container? I've included some photos of what I am currently doing by including the ribbon in the grid. Is this right or should I start the first grid with the container?

Thanks for the help guys!