Google uses PHP!

**seanf** · Nov 15, 2002, 14:52

Just saw this when installing the toolbar. Let's hope their just using the PHP3 extension not the build!

Sean

**luke-innovative** · Nov 15, 2002, 15:22

Cool - first Yahoo, now Google - the world is being enlightened to PHP

**Mucky** · Nov 15, 2002, 15:29

I thought Yahoo used Google's engine.......

**Hartmann** · Nov 15, 2002, 16:44

Yeah, that is pretty cool...

**seanf** · Nov 15, 2002, 16:47

Originally posted by Mucky
I thought Yahoo used Google's engine.......

This is for other parts of the site, but yes they do use Google results

Sean

**xyuri** · Nov 16, 2002, 03:37

I think Yahoo's use of PHP is making people think twice before thinking that its a crap language, cos all of a sudden (over here anyways) I'm beginning to find PHP books amongst the shelves instead of ASP

**Cam** · Nov 16, 2002, 03:47

Yeah, people are beginning to take it a whole lot more seriously and if I went to bookstores I would probably find the same thing

**FHJim** · Nov 16, 2002, 13:10

hmmmm first the pigeon rank technology

now php... what next??

**The Big Show** · Nov 16, 2002, 14:30

Originally posted by DJ P@CkMaN
Yeah, people are beginning to take it a whole lot more seriously and if I went to bookstores I would probably find the same thing

I see many more PHP guides and Barnes and Noble nowadays. It's popularity is rising meteorically

**Zoef** · Nov 16, 2002, 14:47

Who else of the 'biggies' uses Php?

I've heard somewhere, Amazon, is this true?

Let's make a list... That might help to change the minds of some providers who won't support it...

Rik

**xyuri** · Nov 16, 2002, 15:46

err, i only know of Yahoo! and Google

**Zoef** · Nov 16, 2002, 16:03

On the growth of Php, look here:
http://www.php.net/usage.php

**Cam** · Nov 16, 2002, 20:31

Well then, what more proof do you want?

PHP is a great language that is not too hard to learn but is also very powerful.

**Zoef** · Nov 16, 2002, 20:53

All the proof i can get. Not for me, but for this ********* of a provider.

The customer is a well known local charity and the provider is one of their sponsors, and I would redesign their site for free...

**Cam** · Nov 16, 2002, 21:00

Haha, good luck man

**Jeremy W.** · Nov 16, 2002, 21:01

Once again PHP wins because more 14 year olds use it than smoke cigarettes. Just a fun fact: There are currently more .NET job openings right NOW than there have been in all PHP's history

As far as books, I'd love to see a single bookstore carrying more PHP books than C# and ASP.NET books.

**Zoef** · Nov 16, 2002, 21:16

I'll need luck, or I'll need to find another 'provider/sponsor' for them.

These guys at that provider are real .NET heads, it's like nothing else exists.

They just get so damned arrogant about it, it pisses me off.

I was programming in assembler when they were still in nappies for crying out loud!!!!

Anyhow, all in a days work i guess...

I'm going to bed

**Cam** · Nov 16, 2002, 21:25

I've never used anything other than PHP in web development. It was a friend that got me on to it about 6 months ago and I was hooked. Way better than C/C++

**templates911** · Nov 16, 2002, 21:32

Php is just better overall. I mainly use php for ALL of my sites. A few CGI scripts here and there.

**Jeremy W.** · Nov 17, 2002, 06:04

"Better overall"...

And the ".NET heads" are closed minded?

You go ahead and have your fun in the PHP forum then, patting each other on the backs for small advances and ignoring the leaps and bounds of other programming languages.

**HarryF** · Nov 17, 2002, 06:25

Here's another fun fact about PHP - in it's entire history, groups backing PHP as a solution have probably spent, in total, less than $100,000 marketting it. And yet it's the worlds most popular server side language...

Hats off to those 'nicitone free 14 year olds' - sure will be interesting when they're old enough to start making the decisions in companies

**Phil.Roberts** · Nov 17, 2002, 06:34

Originally posted by Jeremy W.
"Better overall"...

And the ".NET heads" are closed minded?

You go ahead and have your fun in the PHP forum then, patting each other on the backs for small advances and ignoring the leaps and bounds of other programming languages.

Stop trying to cause flame wars.

Dont deny it, it seems like every time a pro-php discussion arised you're always in there with the snide "well .NET blah blah blah blah so there" type remarks.

Its getting really boring.

**Zoef** · Nov 17, 2002, 07:40

"Better overall"...

And the ".NET heads" are closed minded?

You go ahead and have your fun in the PHP forum then, patting each other on the backs for small advances and ignoring the leaps and bounds of other programming languages.

I'm sure .NET has it's uses, and probably even has some advantages over PHP, and the other way around.

But for small sites with some simple CMS, which is the niche I'm looking for, I'm under the impression it's rather cumbersome and expensive. That's why I decided on PHP as my first server side weblanguage. It seemed to meet my requirements better.

What I do think is close-minded, however, is for a major provider ('major' in this country) to completely ignore a popular language such as PHP and be smug about it.

That is just bad service!

**seanf** · Nov 17, 2002, 08:27

Originally posted by Jeremy W.
Once again PHP wins because more 14 year olds use it than smoke cigarettes

Could you also tell us the reason why younger people will choose PHP to create, for example, a webform rather than choose .NET? It seems the obvious choice to me; people want what's easiest, cheapest and most appropriate for their website, they don't want an expensive technology aimed at corporate users

Sean

**M. Johansson** · Nov 17, 2002, 08:41

Originally posted by seanf
Could you also tell us the reason why younger people will choose PHP to create, for example, a webform rather than choose .NET? It seems the obvious choice to me; people want what's easiest, cheapest and most appropriate for their website, they don't want an expensive technology aimed at corporate users

Sean

ASP.NET is really not that expensive. It will (generally) cost you slightly more on low-end/low-cost hosts, but it's really negligable once you start paying for bandwidth. I think the reason PHP is picked by younger people is the fact that you don't need to know one bit of software architecture whatsover to code a web site, which you need to with ASP.NET. PHP is excellent to start with, but I find ASP.NET sleeker and more solid overall.

Stop trying to cause flame wars.

Dont deny it, it seems like every time a pro-php discussion arised you're always in there with the snide "well .NET blah blah blah blah so there" type remarks.

So he should just site there and shut up while someone makes a totally unfounded remark about the quality of PHP? Thank reason Jeremy is here to create some kind of eqilubrium, since the PHP community is really rabid about PHP. PHP is a wonderful language, but that doesn't mean that everything else sucks.

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