SitePoint Sponsor

User Tag List

Results 1 to 14 of 14
  1. #1
    Don't eat yellow snow spaceman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    1,039
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that IE cannot.

    I swapped to using IE over Mozilla/Netscape about 5 years ago. But just recently I've swapped back, mainly due to a single feature that the Netscape browser has that IE doesn't: tabbed browsing. It's the ability to have multiple web page or sites loaded up in a single browser window, and a simple click of a tab selects the page you want to look at. I think this feature is particularly appealing to web developers and other 'power' users like myself, but less so to your average home user (half of whom still don't know that you're 'allowed' to open more than one browser window at a time). Oh - and an extension of this feature is that you can bookmark ALL of the page tabs as a single group. Very nice.

    Anyhow, I've just spotted this info. Thought others might enjoy:

    101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that IE cannot.

    I expect a dedicated IE user could pick some holes.

    I wonder how Microsoft will respond with IE7? Does Mozilla/Netscape now have copyright over tabbed browsing? I doubt it. Or are all these extra features in Mozilla/Netcape a case of 'too little too late'?

    Food for thought.
    Web Design Perth Melbourne .:. Itomic Business Website Solutions
    Drupal Experts .:. Drupalise

  2. #2
    SitePoint Evangelist
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    420
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    One Thing IE can do but Mozilla cannot

    One Thing IE can do but Mozilla cannot:

    Inserting Flash according to the W3C standards
    Wavelan

  3. #3
    SitePoint Wizard Rick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Lancashire, UK
    Posts
    3,847
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I find that I normally have far too many IE windows open at once for me to remeber which was doing what. But I can live with that as its as easy for me to press ALT and TAB as it is for me to switch sites in Mozilla.

    However the ability to prevent pop-up windows opening, block images from cartain sites (well know banner add serving sites for example) etc has kept me using Mozilla on my main computers rather than IE.

    In fact thinking about it I could probably list 101 things

    The main issue for me is standards compliance. I am a big fan of this and prefer browsers that support standards rather than their own standards (i.e. IE!)

    Rick
    Rick

  4. #4
    Wanna-be Apple nut silver trophy M. Johansson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Location
    Halmstad, Sweden
    Posts
    7,400
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    www.netcaptor.com

    IE with tabbed browsing and about 9 bazillions of other great features. Probably not too far of what IE7 will look like.

    myIE2 is also a good free alternative.
    Mattias Johansson
    Short, Swedish, Web Developer

    Buttons and Dog Tags with your custom design:
    FatStatement.com

  5. #5
    SitePoint Guru bronze trophy blufive's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    853
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Now I'm a mozilla cheerleader, but some of those 101 things are kinda vague, or only perceived as an advantage by some people.

    One Thing IE can do but Mozilla cannot:
    Inserting Flash according to the W3C standards
    Wrong. Go read this: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/flashsatay/

  6. #6
    Grumpy Mole Man Skunk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Lawrence, Kansas
    Posts
    2,067
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'll be very surprised if IE7 features tabbed browsing, or anything else particularly exciting (though hopefully they'll finally fix their remaining CSS bugs). Microsfot sdon't have any reason to innovate - with 95% of the browser market they are very unlikely to "rock the boat" by introducing new browser features.

    Innovation in IE is pretty much dead - all the more reason to switch to a better alternative

    As for tabs-vs-new-browser windows, tabs have two distict advantages. Firstly, you can "group" your browser windows. I frequently have two Mozilla windows open, each with multiple tabs - one contains windows relevant to whatever I'm working on and the other contains windows to do with stuff I'm blogging / browsing. Alternatively I'll have a new window open to research a topic and keep all the tabs related to that project in that window. Secondly, tabs are much better performance wise. I frequently have upwards of 30 tabs open in a couple of Mozilla windows, on a Win98 machine with 192MB of RAM. Try running that many IE windows and the system quickly grinds to a halt.

    IE's only advantage these days is the fact that some advanced MS-only web scripting techniques (such as contentEditable) unsurprisingly only work in IE. For general browsing I haven't run across a site that doesn't work in Mozilla in months.

  7. #7
    SitePoint Evangelist
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    420
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by blufive
    Now I'm a mozilla cheerleader, but some of those 101 things are kinda vague, or only perceived as an advantage by some people.


    Wrong. Go read this: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/flashsatay/
    Perfect, thankyou very much.

    I knew there must have been a way to do it, wow that helps a lot of my problems.
    Wavelan

  8. #8
    Starting to-digg-in ********* jamesxv7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Island of Puerto Rico @ the Caribbean
    Posts
    873
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hi:

    Thank you for the reference. Very technical but who cares reason 101?
    James: Ecodig - My Blog - My Gallery
    Validate your sites: CSS - HTML/XHTML
    Without faith you are lost.

  9. #9
    SitePoint Wizard silver trophy KLB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Maine USA
    Posts
    3,781
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I know something IE does better than Mozilla, in default mode, it easily installs any Active-X that comes down the pipe allowing one to aquire any and all scumware/spyware IE comes across.
    Ken Barbalace: EnvironmentalChemistry.com (Blog, Careers)
    InternetSAR.org
    Volunteers Assist Search and Rescue via Internet
    My Firefox Theme: Classic Compact
    Based onFirefox's default theme but uses much less window space

  10. #10
    Robert Wellock silver trophybronze trophy xhtmlcoder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    A Maze of Twisty Little Passages
    Posts
    6,316
    Mentioned
    60 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes, M$ Explorer even allows you to use CSS to trigger JavaScript (even when scripting is disabled via the M$ browser) yeah dangerous security flaw there.

  11. #11
    Starting to-digg-in ********* jamesxv7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Island of Puerto Rico @ the Caribbean
    Posts
    873
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thanks xhtmlcoder for give us some hack tricks! Lets got explode it
    James: Ecodig - My Blog - My Gallery
    Validate your sites: CSS - HTML/XHTML
    Without faith you are lost.

  12. #12
    Robert Wellock silver trophybronze trophy xhtmlcoder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    A Maze of Twisty Little Passages
    Posts
    6,316
    Mentioned
    60 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's very worrying:

    <p style="background: url(javascript:alert('Hello'));">

    Replace the _ in the sample above and it becomes dangerous. No, I don't condone using such nasty code as it helps no-one.

  13. #13
    SitePoint Wizard bronze trophy
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    4,095
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Post Thoughts

    Most of those things can be accomplished by using IE with Avant. And the ActiveX thing can be fixed by setting ZoneAlarm Pro to disable ActiveX controls.

    Many people (particularly on SP... ) say that Firebird or any Mozilla/Gecko-based browser is better than IE. What they fail to mention is that it is better than IE for them. Individual preferences must be considered. That's why I used Avant instead of Mozilla: Mozilla may be the "better" browser on counts of standards-compliance, but Avant suits me better.

    Just my typical two cents.

  14. #14
    SitePoint Wizard silver trophy KLB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Maine USA
    Posts
    3,781
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    compuwhiz7, well said. Like many here I'm anything but MSFT, but I agree. What constitutes the best browser is the one that suits one's needs best.
    Ken Barbalace: EnvironmentalChemistry.com (Blog, Careers)
    InternetSAR.org
    Volunteers Assist Search and Rescue via Internet
    My Firefox Theme: Classic Compact
    Based onFirefox's default theme but uses much less window space


Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •