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    Content writing

    can we modify other-ones content to make a unique content..can google will treat as a unique content?

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    Regardless of what Google does, this is not a sensible thing to do. You are basically stealing someone else's work, which is illegal and unfair to the person who wrote the original content.

    If you are unable to create useful original content of your own - or pay someone to do it for you - then you shouldn't be in the website business.

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    At the company I work for this is rife!

    We deal with a specific type of client in the finance industry and have over 400 clients, far too often we find ourselves refusing to update sites due to stolen and poorly re-written content.

    @satseo ; - Sometimes you will need to write about something which is almost unavoidably duplicated, technical information for example but even in this case you can make it unique. You should avoid looking at other sites when creating your content otherwise you will knowingly or unknowingly copy portions of the text and as said above, regardless of Google's view on the subject, it is wrong full stop. If the information is already present on another website there is absolutely no need for it to be repeated elsewhere, if you really need to use it then link to the site and include a short snippet, they may even do the same in return if you have content of interest.
    Last edited by Shyflower; Jan 31, 2012 at 10:03. Reason: fixed mention

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuttySkunk View Post
    At the company I work for this is rife!

    We deal with a specific type of client in the finance industry and have over 400 clients, far too often we find ourselves refusing to update sites due to stolen and poorly re-written content.

    @satseo ; - Sometimes you will need to write about something which is almost unavoidably duplicated, technical information for example but even in this case you can make it unique. You should avoid looking at other sites when creating your content otherwise you will knowingly or unknowingly copy portions of the text and as said above, regardless of Google's view on the subject, it is wrong full stop. If the information is already present on another website there is absolutely no need for it to be repeated elsewhere, if you really need to use it then link to the site and include a short snippet, they may even do the same in return if you have content of interest.
    How do you properly research a topic without looking at other sites? The trick is looking at enough of them (I suggest 3 to 5 minimum), taking notes if you need to, and then writing the unique content. Then, check the content through, not Google, but a plagiarism checker such as copyscape that will tell you how many times your content appears (if any ) on other sites and pinpoint the exact words in question.

    Additionally, using even a short snippet without permission is plagiarism. If you really need to quote something or copy an idea, then get permission and give credit where it's due through citation.
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    I prefer to write my own content when I have time. I always dread it, but find that after the first one things flow pretty effortlessly and before I know it I've written 5 or 6 good articles. Other than that I outsource to folks who I know will produce good, unique stuff. Writing yourself forces you to become more familiar with whatever niche you're trying to gain ground in...the more you actually become a personal authority on your topics, the better your results will be in the long run. This doesn't happen with spinning or piecing together other people's stuff.

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    Yes you can para phase the others content but it should not come in copy-rite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosiebrown0 View Post
    Yes you can para phase the others content but it should not come in copy-rite.
    Paraphrasing (one word, not two) is a rewording or a summary of another person's words. One of its synonyms is copy.

    At best, paraphrasing creates a "derivative work" which is a part of copyright owned by the original author.

    Paraphrasing without permission is plagiarism and it does infringe upon an author's copyright
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    Yes i agree with you..paraphrasing is illegal..but if a person don't have sufficient knowledge then one can write in their words after taking overview of others content on a particular topic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosiebrown0 View Post
    Yes i agree with you..paraphrasing is illegal..but if a person don't have sufficient knowledge then one can write in their words after taking overview of others content on a particular topic..
    Of course you can research a topic, but you still must write with your own idea and in your own words unless you have written permission from an original author to use his/her work.
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    Yes off-course you can make it unique one. but all lines must be use some synonyms and grammar use with your own ways.
    Add your Own views also and your services etc.

    than Google read it unique content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RusselsP View Post
    Yes off-course you can make it unique one. but all lines must be use some synonyms and grammar use with your own ways.
    Add your Own views also and your services etc.

    than Google read it unique content.
    Quite frankly, this form doesn't care much about Google. This forum is here for our members to get help in writing content for their web visitors. Google will never convert from a visitor to a customer and their reps have said over and over again to write for the visitor, not for search engines. That's what we're working on here.
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    With the amount of content on the web, it's possible that original content could accidentally be duplicate. Having said that, if you're purposely going out there and rewording someone's content this is wrong. Google probably won't notice but the author may notice. Your best bet is to research topics and make your own content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain84 View Post
    With the amount of content on the web, it's possible that original content could accidentally be duplicate. Having said that, if you're purposely going out there and rewording someone's content this is wrong. Google probably won't notice but the author may notice. Your best bet is to research topics and make your own content.
    With the amount of content on the web, there is a 100% probability that much the information is duplicated. However, original content doesn't rely so much on what you say as it does how you say it.
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    An old trick my teachers taught me when I was in school was to research (and take lots of notes in the form of short phrases and lists) and read all about the topic... then leave it for a day or two before going to do the actual writing. This will help your brain forget how it was written and let you just remember the information.

    If you are writing your article based on what others say, you are either quoting or plagiarizing (and if you're whole article is a "quote", that's just as bad). Like Shyflower said, it's how you say it. For example, there are hundreds of books written on C++ (a programming language). The information for C++ doesn't really change (especially the basics). However, hundreds of authors have been able to write books on that same little bit of information because they write it themselves, using just the information.

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    Plagiarizing content in the internet became a problem with the advent of adsense, which made it easy to monetize content. I have seen it all through the years.

    I remember when the profitable thing to do was to scrub google searches and grab the top 10-40 results along with a paragraph of content from each while giving a link to the site. The culprits would slap adsense on the page and make money that way. Not many of those left, but I had a couple of hundred links to my website from places like that before.

    Then I would find places where they would take content, change it a little and then publish it as if it was their own. This actually requires some work, and I find very little of that. Funny thing is I do not consider myself a particularly gifted writer, but having a finance related website makes me a target.

    What is very prevalent is a lot of websites and forums that seem to have computer generated trash built around keywords and search terms. The good thing is that google and the other search engines seem to be very good at catching these and relegate them to the bottom of the pile.

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    Rephrasing articles is not OK. Of course, when you're trying to get as much knowledge about a topic, you're bound to read tens of articles. But from getting the knowledge and then 'sifting' it through your own cognitive process to just 'spinning' an article there's a lot of difference. I too read many articles on a topic and create another article based on that information. But I add details or remove them, I think about it in my own terms and the article is always different, since my way of seeing things is different than the authors'.

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    most people are ok with rewritting of content if you reference it with a backlink

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistfix View Post
    most people are ok with rewritting of content if you reference it with a backlink
    Not necessarily true. With or without a backlink, it's still copyright infringement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistfix View Post
    most people are ok with rewritting of content if you reference it with a backlink
    How do you know if "most people are ok" with it if you don't first ask permission? As Miki said, backlink or not, if you don't have the permission of the author it's copyright infringement and more -- it isn't just a no-no, it's illegal.
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    I will suggest you to write your own content instead of coping some1 else. This will definitely increase your self confidence in writing content & it will also motivate you to write more. initially you may find it difficult so you may take help of experts but gradually even you will get accustomed of writing content of your own & you'll forget of modifying some one's else.

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    Tips for Better Article Writing

    Quote Originally Posted by satseo View Post
    can we modify other-ones content to make a unique content..can google will treat as a unique content?
    I have been into article writing also just recently as online job. I admit I am not an expert but spinning helps me to avoid plagiarism. Also I have found tips to make a better content for article writing. Read here for you:
    http://www.techyv.com/article/tips-m...rticles-better

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    Quote Originally Posted by deniseAnne View Post
    I have been into article writing also just recently as online job. I admit I am not an expert but spinning helps me to avoid plagiarism. Also I have found tips to make a better content for article writing. Read here for you:
    http://www.techyv.com/article/tips-m...rticles-better
    Spinning is creating a derivative form of an already published article. Unless you're creating different "spins" on your own work (which is, by the way, the proper use of "spin") it's still copyright infringement and just as unethical and illegal as copy/paste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deniseAnne View Post
    I have been into article writing also just recently as online job. I admit I am not an expert but spinning helps me to avoid plagiarism. Also I have found tips to make a better content for article writing. Read here for you:
    http://www.techyv.com/article/tips-m...rticles-better
    Spinning is still plagiarism. True, it's really hard to come up with something entirely original. You can write something identical to someone else's article without even having read his or her article because people can share the same ideas and observations. But if you take somebody else's work and just spin it, you're just stealing. Write something that you are an expert on, have a passion for or write from your own perspective based on experience. If you are writing on something technical, do research but avoid looking at your resource material while writing because you'll end up copying or paraphrasing what's there. Instead, take notes of pertinent points and write about what this means to you, the implications it has for the rest of the people, etc.

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    Spinning an article isn't avoiding plagiarism.

    In fact, it's worse than blatant plagiarism. You can accidentally plagiarize and not really mean to (not the case we are talking about, but it can happen). However, when you are spinning something you know you are plagiarizing, but you want to hide it.

    That's like murdering someone and burying the body. You know you are guilty, you just hope nobody catches on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samanime View Post
    That's like murdering someone and burying the body. You know you are guilty, you just hope nobody catches on.
    I love the Content section of this forum and learn a great deal from posters like Samanime and Shyflower. But I just had to post how much I love that analogy. Plagiarism is always very, very, very bad...but I would hate to see what would happen if you were caught stealing content from Samanime!!!
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