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    SitePoint Wizard TWTCommish's Avatar
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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote/font><HR>Originally posted by Sparkie:
    Are they really all standard at 800x600 now?

    I've always heard it was 640x480..I think I even read that in a past Tribune newsletter..well, nevertheless, you should never leave out a group of your visitors just for using that resolution.
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    Yup, 800x600...if you've ever used 640x480 you probably know why...it's huge! My mother used to use this size simply because her site was a bit faulty...but other than that I don't think I've met anyone else with the same size.

    The number of users (if I remember correctly) currently set at 640x480 is something like 9-10 percent at most...with that number going down all the time...as you'll notice SitePoint has (somewhat) gone with an 800x600 resolution or higher for it's layout...I'll be doing the same with mine...most sites will eventually anyway.



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    I just realized that I have 4 times the screen space as a 640x480 user! All of it comes in very handy. I highly recommend that everyone else raises their resolution as high as they can, 1280x1024 for me. Oh another thing: I have a tiny 15" monitor too. I have grown used to everything being so small, and it is definately worth it.

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    I think the site looks great and I agree with the previous comments. My only addition here really is to look closely at your HTML and try and be as close to the standard as possible.
    For example, attricbutes should have quotation marks round them like so Border="0".
    You are also missing ALT tags which are pretty important for a variety of reasons.
    Design wise - ace!

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    Upon visiting devstorm.com it immediately hit me that the site looks very much like hostpro.com. I don't know if this is intentional but it certainly stood out.

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    Sparklit:
    Aidan had previously brought my attention to that site about a week ago. I have never seen that site before that.

    I can see how the sites are similar, but I can also see how the sites' designs are quite different from each other. They have similar layouts and both sites use a "dotted" effect somewhere on the page, but I don't think they are close enough to each other to say that we "copied" them. In fact, if I had seen that site in the past before we launched the site, I wouldn't have used that design. But, it is already up and I think it looks to good to take down just because it looks "similar" to one other site.

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    One more thing: the navigationbar has a purple-like color, while the bar on the left is more blue. I don't really like this combination, but that's probably just me

    The site looks finally as it was meant to look in NS.

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    Devstorm.com is pretty nice actually, even if it looks a bit messy to my eyes (or: there isn't enough white space). The right cell (where website design, graphic design etc. services are said) is clear, but not too clear to notice that they are links actually. Took some time from me

    The use of image maps in the navigation section of the page isn't perhaps the best one, I prefer separate images.

    My first impression was: not bad.

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    To TWTCommish:

    Even if 800x600 is current trend on web site designing, I personally dislike sites that use such wide layout. Why? Because I never browse one browser window maximized, I have several of them open at the same time, each one sized about 500x900 (width 500, height 900).

    It's really annoying to see that horizontal scroll bar at the bottom, just because one used too wide fixed-width tables.

    Unfortunately even Sitepoint doesn't make any exceptions with this.


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    It's become more widespread to design for an 800x600 resolution...pretty soon 640x480 resolutions will be all but extinct...I figure this will happen fairly so anyway, so I might as well design for that now, rather than revamp my site later.



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    I agree, TWTCommish.

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    Hey,

    Were also targeting 800x600 resolutions now. I am more concerned with how my site looks on 800x600 and 1024x768 then I am with 640x480, mainly because people who deal with our businesses generally do have newer computers.

    -Brendan

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    You should also be concerned about how your site looks in different sized browser windows as hardly anyone uses maximized browser window and browse just one site.

    Why? It's simply not effective enough. The best way to search something is to use multiple windows open at the same time and browse one while the other loads.

    Atleast I use the previous method


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    If the browser window isn't maximized, then the resolution of the window is comparable with 640x480, 800x600 or between those values. This is at 1024x768, though.

    Try to avoid the site being 'crushed' if the browser window gets smaller, that's the whole point.

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    Hi Chris,
    your site is not to bad.
    I've got one suggestion:
    Try to get a clearer connection between your header and the left sidebar. This will make the hole thing more stable.

    Maybe try to redesign the fonts in the header, they look very big. Try to make them a little finer.

    Thats it, i think you have enough critics to work on for the next days...

    Have fun..

    -Steven

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    The design is quite classy but the site does have a problem in big screens. Because when you maximised it you will get a lot of empty space at the bottom and the left.
    But well this is juz a suggestion from mi overall it is quite good thou.Cheers

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    -read message below, I accidentally submitted opinion twice-

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    Professional, great design. The HumanClick contact is becoming a little too common these days -- and it is disappointing when it isn't being attended by a support rep. Stick to forms, phone, email, and conventional mail for those that really aren't acquainted with the Web yet. Also, I was disappointed that the top nav bar didn't rollover at all. With the lightning theme, you should have them "light up" or glow upon mouseover. Just an idea.

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    Thanks for the comments and suggestions.

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