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    Has it happen to you? It happened to us, all of sudden you become the family member who has to help Mom or Dad as they age, get sick or can't live alone anymore. Our site features ebooks for family caregivers and resources. I'm in a state of constant change, with new sites to link to or information worth while. I'd really like some feedback on how my site looks and navigates and if the information is worthwhile.

    URL: http://www.rbs4u.com


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    First of all, consider that this is just MY opinion.... and not an "expert" one, at that.

    1) I had a problem telling what was "your content" and what was advertisements or links to other sites. I realize that you are providing a service by aggregating these resources, but on first glance it looks like nothing more than lots of ads....

    2) Consider using the navigation/color scheme at the bottom of Caregiver Tips and create either a menu structure for the home page that clearly shows this structure, or that clearly "chunks" the contents into these categories.... Seeing this navigation is the first time I could understand your organization.

    3) Just quickly browsing your site, I ended up with several browser windows open. I don't like sites that open a new browser window, unless it's just to pop up a message on top -- it's just as frustrating as sites that launch others within their frames, and you can't break out of the frames.

    4) I couldn't see a consistent color scheme amd font usage.... I like consistency.

    Hope this helps.




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    Thanks Kent, I'm working on your suggestions, check back. I'd rather close windows than try to find where I started again, that's why you can find links that open new windows, plus my sites still in the background. Consistency is something else I'm working on. Appreciated your feedback <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote/font><HR>Originally posted by KentT:
    First of all, consider that this is just MY opinion.... and not an "expert" one, at that.

    1) I had a problem telling what was "your content" and what was advertisements or links to other sites. I realize that you are providing a service by aggregating these resources, but on first glance it looks like nothing more than lots of ads....

    2) Consider using the navigation/color scheme at the bottom of Caregiver Tips and create either a menu structure for the home page that clearly shows this structure, or that clearly "chunks" the contents into these categories.... Seeing this navigation is the first time I could understand your organization.

    3) Just quickly browsing your site, I ended up with several browser windows open. I don't like sites that open a new browser window, unless it's just to pop up a message on top -- it's just as frustrating as sites that launch others within their frames, and you can't break out of the frames.

    4) I couldn't see a consistent color scheme amd font usage.... I like consistency.

    Hope this helps.


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    Well first thing you can do is put a border = "0" tag for your image link you got to your bookstore. just put border = "0" in the link tag.

    The second thing was lack of organization. The bottom half of your first page looks alot like a the first page of a directory. Go to dmoz.org and look at the bottom half of their first page. Your content is basically the same but the problem is theirs is all in a straight line and thus easily readable while your is all over the place. You should put all your content in Tables and organizate it in some format. Some of your banner's aren't even centered.

    The next thing is text colors. I see text in red, green, blue, and brown. That is 2 too many colors. Try to stick with just 1 color for text and 1 color for links. You can have your link change colors when mouseovered though, I think your site would really benefit from some CSS. There is a coding in style article on this site you should take a look at.

    When I clicked on your services link an advertising popup appeared. This only reminds people of porn sites and I would stay away from that practice.

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    The concept of providing a site that addresses the needs of the growing number of people caring for (elder) family members is great! Other than a great concept, you have obviously put a lot of time and effort into gathering links and info for your site, which means you already have a lot to offer visitors to your site.

    That said, I agree with the other comments in that navigation is difficult. Also, I was a little unclear, from visiting the site, what your target audience and purpose was (see below). Also consistency of color, etc. was lacking. All of these issues are related to the organization.

    I read a series of articles called "Building a Killer Site" (which, I believe, you should be able to find on this site) which addressed purpose and organization, among other topics. Some really good, really concrete ways to approach these issues.

    Personally, I prefer a pyramid approach to organization for sites like yours that have a lot of content. Think of the homepage at the top. It should link to say 4-8 main categories that all other content can be organized under. Each main category should have a page that repeats the nav bar on the homepage (make sure to include a "home" link) and also includes another, separate nav bar that has links to any pages that may fall under the specific category, if that's relevant. And so on and so forth. (Basically, the idea is to do a type of hierarchical grouping. Keep in mind that you can always link to a page that may fit into more that one category from two or more of the main category pages.)

    Once you've got the organization figured out, make a clear, simple homepage. On it, clealy state the name and/or "owner" of the site (put a logo) somewhere at the top. Also, state your purpose (who you are here to serve and why/how) and briefly sum up what you site has to offer. Put the nav bar somewhere where people can see it without scrolling down (top?side?). Limit ads as much as possible here. Most, if not all, of this page should be visible without scrolling down.

    The main problem I had with the existing homepage, is that it had so many general shopping links it seemed like just another general directory. I would make on-line shopping one of your main categories, with emphasis on the fact that you are trying to provide an easy, time-effective way for busy caregivers to take care of all their shopping needs. I might also make "Taking care of yourself" and "Taking care of your charge (better word?)" other main categories. Under each of these, you can still link to shopping sites geared at these topics, but also provide links to informational sites and feature your own related contenct,etc. (For instance I noticed a link on dealing with stress that would work great under a "Taking care of yourself" category.)

    I liked the idea of having an art gallery that featured works done by older people (were they all elderly?) Are there other places where the accomplishments of the elderly are featured? If so, this would make another great main category and really encourage people to see the abilities of the older population, not just their limitations.

    Keep in mind that I have only a brief knowledge of your site and this is just my own opinion as to how I might organize it, but I always find specific ideas helpful as a reference (and then change them), so I thought you might, too.

    Someday you may want to add a category that addresses legal matters that effect the elderly and their caregivers. I think this would be really valuable. Also a forum where people can exchange ideas, ask/give advice or just make new fiends would be very useful and help create a sense of community that will keep people coming back to your site.

    You've taken on a lot, but it's a valuable endeavor. Good luck with the site!

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    This site really needs attention in my opinion. I know some of what I'll say has already been said, but I'll say it again anyway:
    1)There are way too many text colours and styles. I count at least black, brown, blue, green and red and then there are a whole heap of combinations of bold and underline that in effect make it look like anything is worth trying to see if it works as a link. This is bad navigation
    2)Some text is centered, other is left aligned with no particular reason
    3)There would have to be a half dozen differnet font sizes and styles, again with no reason seemingly attached to them. there are serif links and non serif links and serif text and non serif text
    4)Who are you - when I visited I thought the site was for Landscape USA because that was the advert that popped up. There is no clear branding or heading
    5)RBS4U was mentioned haphazardly throughout the site but nowhere could I find what it stood for! (Though I admit I did not search to deep - but then I shouldn't have to).
    6)The occasional icons only serve to give the page a distorted and very messy appearance and do not assist the user - is a pic of a guy throwing a football going to make a user think of father's day? If you insist on using icons, make them all the same size and use a more standard layout method. The advice from another post to check out Dmoz is a good start.
    7)I then went to the caregivers section and AAARRGGGHHHH more font colours and styles!The number and way the banner adverts made me think of a porn site...
    8)OK I went to the services bit and there is a bit of sanity there with a reasonably consistent style that you ought to consider replicating over the rest of the site as a good start. But, you still have alignment all over the place and varied caloured tables - why?Also when I clicked to find out about your services I got a pop up advert for some music exchange thing - which I instantly closed - is it really necassary?
    9)Also in the service section you need to take a look at the language lines like "We purchased numerous how to stuff, but the best we found was The Internet Marketing Center" really don't ooze in professionalism...

    Anyway that's about all for now...I didn't look at the rest of the site as I think what I have seen so far needs a large amount of work before it should be released (IMO)

    Cheers

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    Hey,
    Well first of all, you have WAY too many adverts on your site. As somebody has already mentioned, it's almost impossible to find any original content.

    Besides the ads and the affiliate programs, your page looks very empty...

    The blue border is very annoying on most of your images. I suggest to remove it.

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    menu is not aligned center on the home page, both at the top and botom. It kind of gives them an off balance feel.

    Something you might consider would be a softer color scheme. The saturated reds almost make me feel like I am at a used car dealership. Maybe you could find a more "supportive", "caring" color.

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    OK, That is a vast improvement!

    I now know what RBS4U is!

    Navigation is far clearer than before though you need to centre the white navigation part.

    Also, in my opinion you still have too many text sizes for no apparent reason - eg why is "One of many books that should be in every household. It's..." smaller?

    When I followed the link to:http://www.rbs4u.com/caregiver/ebooks.htm
    there were still different fonts and sizes, but overall the site is 10,000% better than what it was before!

    Good job

    The only other point I can think of at the moment is that the logo is a little rough around the edges.

    Cheers

    Dr Gonzo


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