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    Lightbulb New clever monitoring system called Whoppsy! need review

    Hi all,

    We are developing new clever monitoring system called Whoppsy!. Whoppsy! contains lots of analyzes that will always look after your site and sense the problems you are experiencing even when you think you are not experiencing. That is why we would like you to review it. (We dont even mention that it send you alert in every way )

    As it is in closed beta right now we accept admins and site owners only!

    Most of the tools are not available right now but in at most one month, it will only be available to users who attend for invitation.

    We will be very happy if you look at it and review. Also it would be priceless if you give us idea to make the monitoring tool better.

    Please be patient for all analyzes to work. Since schedules of all analyzes are different, you may need to check the results couple of times in 24 hours after you add your site or project to Whoppsy!.

    Here is the url for invitation; Whoppsy!

    Thank you so much for your review and ideas. You can also use the feedback button on the left to give you feedback.

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    After reading

    We are sorry but we are right now in a closed beta. To create much more efficient and trustworthy monitoring service, we are accepting users only by invitation.
    I lost all and any interest to go ahead and to check what you have to offer.

    Finish your site first and then ask us to review it.



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    @Fastreplies, As I mentioned in my post, this is a closed beta and it is specially available for sitepoint users. That is why we are using invitation method. There are users who attend to receive invitation and we have sent it to them.

    We very would like to send you invitation, if you dont want to enter you mail address, I can send you an invitation manually and I would be very happy if you review it. You can send your mail address as direct message to me and I will send you an invitation.
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    Just to review your site?

    Sorry but I will pass on your invitation.



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    Without even joining...

    The use of absurdly undersized fixed metric fonts combined with a crappy fixed width makes the page questionable for a 'monitoring' tool. In many spots the color combinations of grey text on gray backgrounds is hard to read, and on the whole even the invite page takes WAY too long to load.

    Of course, the "way too long to load" can be laid square on the shoulders of endless jquery bull for nothing and painfully slow handshakes to certain external scripts.

    The join form lacks proper form elements like fieldset or legend, the order of heading tags on the page makes no sense what-so-ever, comment placements (yes, I said COMMENTS) probably means layout issues in legacy IE and/or rendering bugs in both IE and FF, the endless wrapping div make the DOM a confusing mess, you've got clearfix nonsense all over the place on a layout that shouldn't be complex enough to need clearing anywhere but once. (NOT that there is any real reason for clearfix after around 2003)...

    I'm unimpressed, and that's without being DUMB ENOUGH to put a e-mail into it blind or even visit any other pages on it.

    Pages like "statistics" being PAINFULLY slow to scroll due to drawing the charts with I THINK scripting -- not sure. Seems like you've got a lot of Javascript for nothing combined with needlessly complex chart-building.

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    @Fastreplies thanks for your comments. Its okey if we miss one review, but we thought that the analyzes would be great for hosting companies also. Anyway again we will take your comments as review and create a solution to this invitation problem. I hope you attend to review it again when you dont need to use invitation or to create account.

    @deathshadow60 We will most probably change the general layout and all of those things in version 2. Charts may be slow for you because application server is not in USA so I think the connection is problematic for you. (Assuming that you are in USA)

    You may be right about the javascript and that chart problem, however site loads instantly on my computer. I think the problem is the connection problem and as you say the handshakes.

    To make things better, can you please provide us the location information of you ?

    I think you are mostly looking at the design. Design is not our first priority right now but we will most definitely change or improve it.

    Thanks for your comments and reviews. Any additional review would be great for us.
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    Personnaly, I like the design. The graphics look sharp and professional!

    But maybe I would consider using flash for the graphics, it's a little slow and I have a good Desktop computer.

    And what deathshadow60 is talking about is probably true, but it all can be improved over time. It's mostly accessibility issues, but personally, I won't use my tools to look into the structure of a Website to know if it's trustworthy and I'm pretty sure people who does are a minority. Maybe you'll lose visitors with disabilities or accessibility particularities, but like I said, it can be improved over time.

    I'll review your site as soon as I get my invitation in my email box

    Good luck!

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    @xMog Thank you very much for your review, hope you like the monitoring tool. We thought that flash graphics are hard to render actually and lowers the performance. Also these kind of graphics works on tablets without any problem. That is why we choose javascript graphs.

    deathshadow60 is right of course, but I think as you think that this is a beta version and its the beta version of first version so that if this tool becomes succesful then we will surely redesign our tool.

    Please feel free to give any kind of feedback, bad ones are more welcomed than good ones Also if you have any suggestion about additional tools please feel free to tell them to us.
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    Okay, I gave your site a quick look and am not sure what exactly it is your company does. I understand it is in Beta and I see you are obviously going after website monitoring, but truthfully, there are a LOT of other sites out there doing what yours is shooting for.

    So in short, where is the hook? What compels me to start using your service as opposed to the other 5,000 that are currently out there?

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    seem you not finish your website.

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    @Blitzburgh Thank you very much for your review. You are totally right about other 5000 sites but the main difference is that this tool creates your site a profile and checks if the responses fit to your profile. For instance; as you can see from this link, Whoppsy! can find the unexpectedly slow responses. Also Whoppsy! can tell you about your neighbours and their effect to your site also.

    Beside being site owner, If you are using H2B Cloud (IaaS) Services, it gives you information about unexpected CPU, network, hdd loads etc.

    In the near future, it will contain tools to make your site work better. For instance it will check your web sites on daily basis and will give you about dns changes, ip changes, application errors etc. and will contain port scanners, multiple location response analyzers etc.

    We are thinking Whoppsy! as a total package for web developers and system admins mainly.
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    I don't mind the overall colours but things you need to think about:
    - the logo backing colour is slightly different to your heading, an easy fix
    - I wouldn't include any pages on your promotion site that don't include content, just hide them away until they have something on them
    - it's better to have an email capture form for your registration page until you are actually accepting people, have a seperate page for people with beta codes
    - your home page graphics are not coming through in great quality, perhaps try the PNG or higher quality JPEGs

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    I tried it with my website and a Beta invite. Here's my opinion:

    1st, I must say that I have just 1 Website and it's not officially launched and I'm not a Sysadmin. So there are maybe some tools that I just didn't understand the purpose. And, maybe some tools are more interesting if you have more than 1 site to monitor. If I want to get the Alexa score of my site, I just go to Alexa. But if I have 50 websites, that's another story.

    Anyway, here we go:
    - The design is fine IMO. That's a tool, it doesn't have to be super fancy. It's clean, easy to read. Maybe I would work on the logo a little bit, but that's all.
    - Like I already said, the graphics are a little slow with hovers. Flash is way faster on my computer if I compare with Google Analytics graphics.
    - When you have just one website to monitor, the Dashboard looks really empty. I don't know what are your target customers? Sysadmins with 100 websites to monitor? Or just "simple" webmasters with 2-3 websites. This could make a difference.
    - What does the "Neighbours Resource Usage Analyze" is based on? Traffic? It doesn't mean that if I have 50% of the traffic that goes to all the Websites on the same server, that I use 50% of the resources.

    In conclusion, I think that you are on the right track. The actual tools looks great and professional. But I think you'll have to add more tools to get some people to use your Website, depending on your target audience and business plan.

    Good luck!

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