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    FAST Unveils Macromedia Flash Searching Capability

    FAST Unveils Macromedia Flash Searching Capability

    Fast Search & Transfer (FAST), a developer of search and real-time filter technologies, has announced that Macromedia Flash content and applications can now be searched by users of AlltheWeb.com, and by FAST's worldwide portal partners. According to FAST,its AlltheWeb search technology showcas is the first major search engine enabling users to perform searches in Macromedia Flash content and applications. Users of AlltheWeb can now further refine their searches in Macromedia Flash content and applications through the use of the site's Advanced Features functions. This functionality will automatically be made available to FAST's portal partners, such as InfoSpace, Lycos, T-Online, and Tiscali, as well as to the users who perform their searches through these portals.

    http://www.econtentmag.com/ecxtra/20...02_0919_2.html

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    It doesn't actually index current flash. You need to use a new flash SDK to make your flash indexable.

    So in other words to make your flash indexable you need to use a tool that converts it to HTML.

    So actually search engines still can't index flash, they index HTML generated from your flash.
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    Ah. OK. Thanks for the clarification.
    I don't do flash, but I recall people asking if it could be indexed so I posted that blurb...

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    Hmmm. To be honest, I'm yet to see a Flash site with worthwhile content.
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    Originally posted by aspen
    So actually search engines still can't index flash, they index HTML generated from your flash.
    Awww, do they do the same with .php pages because I looked in my "visitors" tracking and I saw FAST looking at document xxx.php/xxx.html and I was thinking "wtf" and when I clicked on the link I saw how my page showed, just the .css was changed to a defeault text/font

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    No. Search engines don't differentiate between PHP and HTML, it's all the same to them. Only your server needs to know the difference.
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    You only need to go here: http://dynamic.macromedia.com/bin/MM...?product=Flash to see Flash sites with worthwhile content.

    Please don't relegate Flash to a button animator or "skip intro" cheesey movie. That was the past. Flash offers a ton of great technology that is unique only to it; try to do the same with HTML and the result is more than poor. It's not going to replace what we have, but for some purposes, it truly does enhance the user experience.

    Two outstanding examples:

    1) http://cbc.ca/sports/afp/wc-flash/2/gametracker.html
    2) https://www.enteryourinformation.com.../onescreen.cfm

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    Originally posted by Geof Harries
    You only need to go here: http://dynamic.macromedia.com/bin/MM...?product=Flash to see Flash sites with worthwhile content.

    Please don't relegate Flash to a button animator or "skip intro" cheesey movie. That was the past. Flash offers a ton of great technology that is unique only to it; try to do the same with HTML and the result is more than poor. It's not going to replace what we have, but for some purposes, it truly does enhance the user experience.

    Two outstanding examples:

    1) http://cbc.ca/sports/afp/wc-flash/2/gametracker.html
    2) https://www.enteryourinformation.com.../onescreen.cfm

    geof
    I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. When I said worthwhile, I meant worthwhile in the sense of indexing. The sites you mention are complex applications for viewing stats and booking - those are excellent applications for Flash, as HTML sucks for that kind of thing. But indexing those would simply be pointless.

    Flash is rarely used to present indexable content, such as forums, articles etc, and I think it should stay that way until the usability problems of Flash has been sorted. I think Flash should be used for the kind of apps you mention, not sites with textual content.

    To get back on topic, I'm not so sue this software is such a good idea. You would probably be much better off by generating the HTML yourself, using some kind of serverside technology.
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    Worthwhile content isn't just found on forums, or news sites even. People look for all types of things using search engines. So I think that this technology is a great idea. About time!

    geof


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