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    Lightbulb Google Plus. Thoughts? Experiences?

    Now that Google Plus is opening up invites at a fairly aggressive rate let's start a discussion about, what some are calling, a potential killer [or at least disruptor] of facebook. Others already dismiss it as another failed attempt to enter the market with something too tech focused, too similar and too late.

    I think we can all agree that even someone the size of Google is going to have a tough time breaking 750 million users... Bing v Google, Apple v PC, there's dozens of examples of failed tries, even from those with huge checkbooks to make a move, and Google has certainly failed at this before... But then there was circles.

    Circles that let you segment your connections into an infinite number of groups so that you can share something with whomever you want. And that's a whole new spin on privacy, an opportunity for many more people in just one place. It's a big divergence from Facebook's open approach and drawing a lot of commentary from early adopters and regular users alike.

    So SPF, what do you think so far? What are the limitations or opportunities you see opening up?

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    hi

    i think google achieve target which is set by facebook's like button.
    But still facebook's like buttons are here to use

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    Although it's always much easier to critique than praise, it seems like the "Plus" is getting a lot of frowns at this stage in its existence. Granted it's still way too early to make snap judgments. However, you'll notice Facebook has only 1,401 plus one's - seems a tad light, no?

    The idea is in the right place, just needs some more traction in order to make an accurate assessment of its value.
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    It probably won't catch on with the same force and intensity that the facebook "like" button has.

    Google keeps trying to cash in on the social networking craze, but doesn't quite succeed because what they release is always a knockoff of something else which had already been established and was proven to stand on its own.
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    How about circles? It's a very different approach to privacy than Facebook... think that will give them any legs?

    [to be clear, I'm talking about google plus, the social network from google, not just +1]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted S View Post
    How about circles? It's a very different approach to privacy than Facebook... think that will give them any legs?

    [to be clear, I'm talking about google plus, the social network from google, not just +1]
    I think it will give them a leg-up in a way...people who start using it may be different from facebook users in that they may be more private and reserved. I like Google Circles' approach to privacy...think their main users may be a slightly older demographic...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabelle07 View Post
    I think it will give them a leg-up in a way...people who start using it may be different from facebook users in that they may be more private and reserved. I like Google Circles' approach to privacy...think their main users may be a slightly older demographic...?
    a lot of people have gone to using gmail as their primary email account, even for business or professional purposes. I would consider them to be googles first and foremost target user group. from what I have seen so far, more like linked in than facebook to me. one of the goals inside of this initiative is the +1 button being placed alongside the facebook like button.

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    I think the google +1 will be an important factor in the google search engine later. But i think they should someohw open it up for non gmail users, now only gmail users can vote. Perhaps thats an idea for the feauture,.. but then again asif google is reading here

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    The Google bar is powerful. Really powerful.

    Circles is cool and, if it works, I think it isn't because Facebook doesn't offer this functionality (which it essentially does), it is because Circles communicates it in a clearer, more visual way. It's not a list of settings.

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    I've tried all of google's products as they became available, including Wave and Buzz. Wave was sort of a fun way to essentially email, but nothing too spectacular, and it died quickly. Google hasn;t accepted my request to join Plus yet, but I'm very interested to see how it works out. Their marketing video is actually somewhat compelling. Having a decent alternative to facebook will be nice, though I like fb too. Just not crazy about monopolies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonailpgi View Post
    I've tried all of google's products as they became available, including Wave and Buzz. Wave was sort of a fun way to essentially email, but nothing too spectacular, and it died quickly. Google hasn;t accepted my request to join Plus yet, but I'm very interested to see how it works out. Their marketing video is actually somewhat compelling. Having a decent alternative to facebook will be nice, though I like fb too. Just not crazy about monopolies.
    Private me your email, I'd send you an invite

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    I personally think Google plus has potential to get people attentions. Its really hard to say something now because Google+ is in initial stage.

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    I think google will be able to compete facebook in short time, it is google's starting that it had registered more than 2 million users with in few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james_webberid View Post
    I think google will be able to compete facebook in short time, it is google's starting that it had registered more than 2 million users with in few days.
    20 million users in less than a month but... and here's the kicker... analytic firms show that only around 1.8 million uniques hit the site daily. Look, join and leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by facebooklicious View Post
    I personally think Google plus has potential to get people attentions. Its really hard to say something now because Google+ is in initial stage.
    Yeah right, I know Google+ will surely have it's way on top soon. But we're all sure that Facebook will also not allow this thing to happen.
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    It might be a great site but since they stopped accepting new signups almost immediately most people are currently unable to access it at all and those that are able to access it are complaining that they can't use it because none of their friends are able to sign up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    It might be a great site but since they stopped accepting new signups almost immediately most people are currently unable to access it at all and those that are able to access it are complaining that they can't use it because none of their friends are able to sign up.
    The paradox [or maybe just conflict] of the closed alpha.

    On one hand Google loses a lot of buzz and momentum every day they dont open things up. As you said, early invitees are getting bored and the tech conversations only last so long.

    On the other side you've got the risk of a site that isn't ready for primetime and scares of the general populous. Since there is clearly an alternative out there it's really a one shot, win or go home proposition.

    While I don't have the benefit [or curse as the case may be] of all the feedback & usage data, my $0.02 is that the gates should be opened up while there's enough people pushing to get something going.... Usually the anticipation of slow acceptance works to build up traction but this isn't a small venture and the only way to get a user to stick is to be so much bolder and move entire social circles moving over in very short order.

    Reasons not to do this would primarily be load [no uptime, no bueno], impending game changers [the feature that makes everything so far look unimportant] or the realization that the system as is is not a game changer [why blow your shot if you know you missed it].

    Like any network, Plus fails if people are still checking the old site and preferring what they see so momentum is critical. Not to mention it gives Facebook even more time to launch and push features that rival, or supersede anything plus does.
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    although Google plus is trying to bring in new features....it will probably take a lot of time to beat or even compete with face-book...
    New features added in Google+ seem to be very boring and yet different...lets see...what happens to Google+ after its release!!

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    True. However, I remember when I got my Android phone about a year ago, all the chatter said that Android devices would never catch Apple because Apple just had too much of a head start (now people are saying that about the HP Touch Pad. Now look. FB is likely here to stay, but google may make significant inroads with plus. I hope they do: competition is good.

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    Well, the project is still under experimental phase. At this point of time we can just speculate things... I am sure this is going to be a tough competition for facebook.
    It seems Google is all set to beat major social networking websites because the project appears to have many interesting applications like, +circles, +spark, +hangout etc.

    Facebook is pulling its socks up to match the new features g Google +.... I ‘ve heard that facebook is collaborating with skype for providing video calling...

    Facebook and Google + face-off is definitely going to be very interesting.

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    I think at this point Google+ has enough cool features to draw in techies and people looking for a Facebook alternative. It has been getting rave reviews from pretty much every sector, and people are fighting to get invitations. For that reason I don't think it's going to go the way of wave or buzz, both of which were essentially incomplete projects with bad execution. I don't think 750 million Facebook users are just going to switch to Google+, but certainly many with privacy concerns and those currently not using Facebook because of those concerns will try this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffreyYu7 View Post
    I think at this point Google+ has enough cool features to draw in techies and people looking for a Facebook alternative.
    This is what I don't get. If you (generic you, not specifically GeoffreyYu) like a Facebooky kind of site, why not just use Facebook? If you're looking for a cool elite alternative, you'll be out of luck. Because Google+ will either bomb and fade into obscurity very quickly, or it will grow and become massive and take over the world and pretty soon it will be everything you sought to avoid when you went after it in the first place.

    Facebook is not, in general, a bad website. Sure, it may not be one that you feel the need to use, but it does what it does pretty well. While I know it has some accessibility problems and a bit too much wizardry for some people, you are looking to Google, I repeat to Google, to produce a site that sticks to the principles of accessible straight-forward HTML? Is this some kind of sick joke?!

    Don't get me wrong, I can see why Google wants to launch an alternative to Facebook. I just can't see what's in it for users other than a new toy to play with and a fleeting moment of superiority when for a brief period they have elevated themselves above the plebian masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie D View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I can see why Google wants to launch an alternative to Facebook. I just can't see what's in it for users other than a new toy to play with and a fleeting moment of superiority when for a brief period they have elevated themselves above the plebian masses.
    Many users already see the big difference.

    Facebook is based on a friend and NOT a friend paradigm

    Google Plus is based on a family,friends,ppl I know, ppl to look out for, work ppl, ppl from university and so on!

    The big difference is that If I post something silly and fully I might post it for all but my work ppl since I want to be more serious with them!

    Same rule applies if I want to say something related to the university, don't want family or work ppl to see it but just the uni guys!

    This fundamental way that google plus works makes Facebook look old school already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie D View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I can see why Google wants to launch an alternative to Facebook. I just can't see what's in it for users other than a new toy to play with and a fleeting moment of superiority when for a brief period they have elevated themselves above the plebian masses.
    Great point Stevie and very similar to an argument I've been working on for the blog...

    It's easy to like the new shiny toy as an early adopter but for 750 million users, most of whom have no patience to group friends, or real problem with the current settings, what would make them move?

    And if they don't move then what value is Plus as a replacement? None. It's not my early adopter friends that make it compelling... it's the people with the interesting lives, the family and friends who update and keep me engaged with them. If they don't move then Plus remains a secondary tool.

    I see Plus doing well in it's own right as a professional network or a niche for topical conversations and as many have suggested, a bigger threat to Twitter than Facebook but even that's no sure thing given the push to show popularity over relevancy and length over quantity.
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    I think Google is entering the market too late, but that said, it might take off. Facebook is here to stay but Google+ might create some much needed competition and even rival Facebook (?).

    Still as Zorro D said, all we can do is speculate at this point. Only time will tell. Has anyone from here been invited to try it?


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