If you can't afford electric, how on earth will you afford Hydrogen?
The best off the grid story I read was an article about a solar powered house (built in Boston I think) where the solar energy was used to produce hydrogen that was stored in another building and the hydrogen was used to fuel a fuel-cell that powered the house. Super cool but as I recall the system cost $250,000 (USD) to build.
Another alternative fuel is compressed air... In India Tata motors was building compressed air cars. The emissions are air Here's a link to a Wikipedia page: Compressed air car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also I've been seeing a few Tesla cars on the road.
Not seen any Teslas over here, but I know there are some in the UK. There are just over 1000 roadsters I think, but it was never meant to be a big seller - just to keep them going until the Model S was ready to be built. Tesla announced yesterday or the day before that they are ending production of the roadster to concentrate on the Model S anyway, which should be a better seller.
I have no idea what hydrogen does or will cost. Now if I set my house up on solar power, I could probably use the excess to fuel my electric car.
I have not done alot of research on this and you guys definitely know more than I do about it. I do know my PG&E bill is over $250 a month just using fluorescent bulbs, low e appliances, and doing laundry once a week. So having to add a car - may be too high for me.
We shall see.
Here's an odd take on the battery problem: Multi Fuel Internal Combustion Electromechanical Batteries – Got That?
This is a charging station that just opened up near me (the page will resize your browser.... sorry): Free plug
Its all relative. There is NO perfect answer, we are people :-) lets take a town that says we need to have safer walk ways, so they change all the intersections to the designed safer walk ways. Only the new design drastically increases road rage. Ultimately making things LESS safe. Oops, We do need a better system so we don't need to use so much gas. We do need better recycling. We do need a way to generate power at the point of use.
I live in two areas, one you can heat your house run your lights etc from electricity for next to nothing. But I have to put up with high power transmission lines, :-P. The other place well, you turn off the lights if you leave a room for a minute.
Me I am watching the development of solar and wind at home closely. They have a new wind turbine I would like to install on my barn :-) windtronics.com
I do think less government and less short term stock tricks would help companies go with the best long term strategies. Depending on location, those strategies do change.
Me? keeping my gas for now.
Hydrogen is the energy of future and at present the production, storage and transportation cost of it is quite high and the research in this area will bring the cost down. I hope by next 8-10 years, we will see many cars running on hydrogen.
Guys, the electric car was ready 25 years ago. Chevy built the EV1. The people who used it loved it but it was a lease vehicle and Chevy in cahoots with big oil pulled the plug on it and pulled all the vehicles back in. In one case the Lessor was relinquished of their car when they pulled in to get a dash light replaced. There was no way to buy the car it was lease only.
Here's the kicker... Chevy sold the patent for the battery to Chevron. Chevron sits on the patent and sues anyone who comes up with the same technique.
The EV1 story: GM, Chevron and CARB killed the NiMH EV once, will do so again
The patent and how it is used to stifle innovation: Patent encumbrance of large automotive NiMH batteries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There is a lot of BS surrounding electric cars and if you check the sources you'll find that it all circles back to Big Oil protecting their antiquated business model. Fortunately the patent runs out this year at some point so I'm hoping that the automakers can jump back on this and make useful electric cars.
The EV1 had 140 Mile range on a charge 25 years ago... Imagine what they could do with another 25 years of development
Oh we can go further back than ford but I was looking at electric cars that could compete in today's market.
In 1985 the EV1 was competitive and it was squashed. Had it been allowed to persist just imagine how it would have evolved. Look at how our everyday devices have evolved since then (including cars) and just imagine how much better EV cars would be.
Indeed, it is the oil companies spreading propaganda about it all so they can stay using their old business model, instead of seeing how they can expand their business into other areas. With all the money they make, just imagine how much investment they could put into an electric infrastructure... but they just can't work out how to monetise it (read: rip people off) so they aren't interested!
Yup, I think you're right about that. From my point of view I see a broad financial opportunity for the EV business but I suppose from an "Oil" position there isn't any incentive when they make tens of thousands of dollars off of every dollar they invest.
So if you look at it from their position, any movement in the alternate fuel subject is a direct threat on life as they know it. It really is a war that is being waged between "big oil" and anyone who wants to get the world off of oil.
I'm not sure how much lithium is going to be used in electric cars/battery etc but Lithium Abundance - World Lithium Reserve: China china has abundant lithium. So I really hope that the same dependence on arab countries for oil is NOT repeated by going electric and should not depend on china for lithium !
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go to the Middle East or Africa that's a whole different story.
Go Green! Your car may not be as fun or fast but your helping OUR planet.
Yes they are better ! But these are not only excuse to raise the demand of Hybrid & Electric Cars In the world because all the country except USA & Europe....there are so many other country who have not such a capacity to afford the the luxury car prices and all....