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    Other Designs Like This!!!

    I'm actaully starting to really like some of the designs that are done in css.

    Before I thought they were too blad but now I love the look and feel.

    I really like http://www.pyrads.com and I was wanting to know what other sites that you like that are primarliy coded in css.

    Thanks

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    Pyrads isn't a css site. Not for layout anyway. It uses CSS for font control and layout elements, but for structure it still relies on tables. He uses 3 main tables to control his layout. 1 for the header, 1 for the nav, and 1 for the body. He uses some css though and I feel this is a great transition for designers and users alike.

    People like Zeldman and co. are preaching that we make the switch to 100% css, while in an ideal world tht would be great, hybrids like the pyrads site give both designers and users a chance to transition, imho.
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    100% CSS pages are pretty rare these days. At some point, most folks "resort" to using a table for certain things. My site is 100% CSS (it's just a modified deafult Movable Type template). I have often had the urge to do things and just throw in a table.

    Most of that frustration comes from the lack of conformity in browsers across platforms. So, I might could do something that fits the standards and works great, but looks like crud in IE on a Mac. That's the falling off point.

    I think a lot of the problems come from the designs that we are use to making and seeing. We have gotten used to creating designs that are absolutely pixel-perfect and have no room for differences in pixel-widths or incorrectly implemented box models (IE finally got that one). So, part of the problem is our own expectations of what can be done.

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    Taranis, I couldn't agree more. Not to mention, most of us come from a Print world where we are used to extremely tight control over layout down to the pixel.
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    Whatcha think about this one?
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    Guest, nice. Other than a bit monochromatic (Not that it's bad, I just over used it last year

    Good use of CSS though.
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    Nick's Blog is completely CSS. Not too shabby a design either. :-p

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    SitePoint Wizard Crowe's Avatar
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    I was telling a friend about Nick's blog the other day. I think his project of taking existing layouts and mocking it up in css is awesome. It's one of the few places you can see examples of layout that match their table counter parts.
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    Originally posted by Taranis
    100% CSS pages are pretty rare these days. At some point, most folks "resort" to using a table for certain things. My site is 100% CSS (it's just a modified deafult Movable Type template). I have often had the urge to do things and just throw in a table.
    Actually, there is no such thing as a 100% CSS site, and if there is, I'd like to see it for myself. All sites use some type of structural code, whether it be HTML or XHTML.
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    Swimm,

    Naturally. The CSS has to be applied to something. I should define what I meant about pure CSS Sites.

    A pure CSS Site is one that relies on css for layout instead of using tables. Usually using DIV tags.
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    Originally posted by Crowe
    Swimm,

    Naturally. The CSS has to be applied to something. I should define what I meant about pure CSS Sites.

    A pure CSS Site is one that relies on css for layout instead of using tables. Usually using DIV tags.
    Uh...didn't you see that I quoted Taranis? My post wasn't in your direction.
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    swimm, yeah, I saw that, and it inspired me to reply because I wasn't as specific as I could have been. I wasn't taking offense or anything
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    I think Crowe and I were talking about the same thing. 100% was just a easy way to describe what we meant.

    There will always be some structural code because we will have to have some way to identify what a particular piece of content is so that we know what we need to do with it.

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    I don't really get the point of making a 100% CSS site though; why not just use tables, it makes everything easier... is pure css used for compatibility?

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    See my post in the XHTML forum. There's a lot more to it than just compatibility--it's about the validity of the language itself.

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    ok, I get the point now... since I usually only code html to get my flash websites laid out, I didn't really realise it could be useful.

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    Originally posted by Crowe
    Taranis, I couldn't agree more. Not to mention, most of us come from a Print world where we are used to extremely tight control over layout down to the pixel.
    Actually Crowe, I doubt that most people here have ever touched QuarkXpress. You'll find that most of the users on Sitepoint have no clue about designing for print.
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    i used to use divs instead of tables. i used to specify the exact pixel where it would be placed. trust me, DON'T do it that way. tables are MUCH MUCH easier to work with.


    yea anyways just thought i'd give my 2 cents worth...
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    bcp

    Perhaps you think that because you are so used to using tables... Once you get used to css for layout, you wont go back!

    Here's another css site for you all to gander

    -mi/<e

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    http://www.wired.com just redid their site in a 100% CSS format
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    Yeah...the new "Wired" site

    is nice, and I really like how easy they make it for you to change the text size!

    Sweet, well executed designing used there!

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