SitePoint Sponsor

User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 38

Thread: Need some help with hosting and domain

  1. #1
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm thinking about moving my site (www.emudreams.web.com) to a 'real' host instead of a free one and registering a domainname for it.
    I can't afford to pay too much (certainly not $150 ) for the domainname. Free domain parking would be great. Does anyone here know a good service to register and host my site? CGI stuff is not necessary, it may be quite basic, as long as it keeps working and the available bandwith isn't too small. Thanx!

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  2. #2
    SitePoint Evangelist
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    533
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    myinternet.com might be something you want to look at

    you can get cheap domains at joker.com, for $10 - $11 if you want to get a cheap domain

    000domains.com will register and setup free redirection I think.. also redirection.net will do that

    --------------------
    Kryogen Technologies - providing web solutions

  3. #3
    SitePoint Wizard TWTCommish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Posts
    3,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    For a registrar, I hear Joker.com, 000Domains.com, and Gandit.net are all quite good...the only of which I've used personally is 000Domains.

    For a host, I've heard Kryogen.com, HostRocket.com, and ThinkHost.com are all good. In this case, ThinkHost is the one I've used...

    There ya go...3 choices no each end...you'll likely find it pretty hard to screw up these options...they're all good.



    ------------------
    Chris Bowyer
    MyCoding.com: Join our mailing list for launch notification!
    "I'm not an insomniac, I'm a web designer."

  4. #4
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Man this is hard! I've checked all of those companies, and I just can't decide...
    I think I don't register a domainname yet, I'm using a redirect service now (web.com), and that works well enough for now. A free hosting service is enough for now.
    And thanx guys! I never expected so many replies!

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  5. #5
    Misfit
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Pennsylvania, USA
    Posts
    2,266
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've used TotalNIC a few times, and they work good. ALthough they are now a little expensive at $17.50 per year. I've heard Domain Monger is excellent also from a few people around the Internet.

    As far as a host goes, I don't think Kryogen is what you need. They're mostly for hardcore PHP and CGI programmers. I've heard negative comments about HostRocket, and how they're support is slowing down, etc. I've heard that ThinkHost's servers are very fast, as well as their customer support. They'll also host your site for free if you're a web designer, which isn't a bad deal.

    ------------------
    Justin Stayton
    · WEB: http://www.j.cx
    · EMAIL: justin@j.cx
    · ICQ: 45549000

    [This message has been edited by Justin S (edited July 02, 2000).]

  6. #6
    SitePoint Wizard TWTCommish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Posts
    3,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm not sure if it's as broad as "if you're a web designer, hosting is free"...but I do get the impression that developer accounts are offered fairly often...I am one in fact..and consider myself very fortunate.



    ------------------
    Chris Bowyer
    MyCoding.com: Join our mailing list for launch notification!
    "I'm not an insomniac, I'm a web designer."

  7. #7
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Does thinkhost have any policies about which sites they accept and which not? If you guys have been on my site, you've seen that it carries emulators and not every host accepts that (especially not free hosts).
    Has anyone heard of JMWebdesigns? They offer ad-free webspace (35 Mb). I've signed up, but they must first decide whether they accept my site or not.

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  8. #8
    SitePoint Evangelist Timothy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 1999
    Location
    Houston TX
    Posts
    414
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes I've heard of JMWebDesigns and a lot of people say they are excellent. They also say they are really, really hard to get accepted into. But I guess it's worth a shot.


    Timothy

  9. #9
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Exactly, Wluke! Well...the emulators on my site are especially console emulators (N64, Snes, Nes, Gameboy, etc.) and they're legal as far as I know. I hope to add a few Windows and/or PC emulators on my site too, and they aren't illegal either. I just hope that JMWebdesigns lets me host my site on their server.

    About thinkhost: I think they're one of the best host companies I've seen on the web. I'll certainly check the agreement!


    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  10. #10
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It wasn't */agreement.shtml...
    Shouldn't this be */terms.shtml or something like that?

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  11. #11
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    They said it takes about 3-5 days to review a site, so I'll have to keep my fingers crossed till then...


    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  12. #12
    Your Lord and Master, Foamy gold trophy Hierophant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Lancaster, Ca. USA
    Posts
    12,305
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Emulators are not necessarily illegal. If an emulator does not contain any code contained in the original system it is emulating, it is legal. The only way the emulator can contain code is under license from the original manufacturer. Case in point is Bleem. Bleem contains no Playstation code nor does it require a BIOS dump to work. Connectix's Playstation emulator was determined illegal because it required a BIOS dump to work correctly. An example of an Emulator that used Windows code to work properly is the Orange PC that used to be shipped for use in Macintosh computers, this was done on legal license from Microsoft which essentially insured every user was purchasing a full copy of Windows.

    Distributing Game ROMs is Illegal. But if you legally own the CD or Cartridge the game came out on, you can make backups for your own use, same as with DVD, VHS, CD or cassettes. The only way to backup a cartridge is to dump it to a ROM. Modifying your game machine to play backups is also legal, though it will void the warranty.

    ------------------
    Wayne Luke - Sitepoint Forums Administrator
    Digital Magician Studios - Making Magic with Web Applications
    wluke@digitalmagician.com

  13. #13
    SitePoint Evangelist
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    533
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    my point is that you cant really compare a commercial host with a free host .. both have their own goals and different forms of making money from their business ...

  14. #14
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You're right, Vinay, as usual, but when you only look at the technical details of those hosts, you'll see that they're quite similar. It's only the reason why they exists, because if they wouldn't make any money they would be complete idiots
    Free hosts try to make money with advertising space, while commercial hosts ask you to pay a fee each month, but both want to make money. The biggest difference is that commercial hosts are forced to deliver excellent services, else nobody would even think about paying them to host a site, a free host doesn't have such a 'problem'. So you see, they've a lot in common.

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  15. #15
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Doesn't matter. Well I've read the terms and I understand from it that I can have everything on my site as long it's no porn or abusing stuff and that I'm fully responsible for the contents of my site.
    Very clear, but it's the same with each hosting service, even the free one I'm with now (www.redrival.com) and they've about the same services as with your cheapest service (basic FTP) while they're totally free. So I'll have to think about it...

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  16. #16
    SitePoint Wizard TWTCommish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Posts
    3,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Uh, doesn't look like the same services to me...apart from hosting domain names rather than on the RedRival servers, ThinkHost also allows you to host multiple domains...

    ThinkHost also includes over twice the space RedRival offers, and probably more bandwidth...as well as unlimited subdomains. RedRival doesn't even have CGI capability!

    Sorry...RedRival may be free, but it's features are obviously inferior...and I can be all but sure that their tech support isn't as fast as ThinkHost's either.

    Sorry to sound like a commercial.



    ------------------
    Chris Bowyer
    MyCoding.com: Join our mailing list for launch notification!
    "I'm not an insomniac, I'm a web designer."

  17. #17
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That's all true, but for the about 15 visitors a day I don't think I'll pay money for hosting. And about the webspace: my whole site (without the software) is less than 700 K, so I don't think that will be a problem in the nearby future.

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  18. #18
    SitePoint Evangelist
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    533
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    heh, commish, you are comparing apples with oranges ...

    ==========================
    I livez da life of a geek

  19. #19
    SitePoint Wizard TWTCommish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Posts
    3,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Vinay: I don't see how...yes, it makes no sense to host commercially for a small website as he mentioned...but he did state that the services was basically the same...I simply corrected him, because I don't think that's really anywhere near the case.

    I don't think he should host with ThinkHost getting 15 unique visitors a day...just pointing out that their services arn't the same...all apples here, man.



    ------------------
    Chris Bowyer - Programmer in Training
    MyCoding.com: Join our mailing list for launch notification!
    "I'm not an insomniac, I'm a web designer."

  20. #20
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You know what? If my site passes the 200 visitors a day, I'll host my site at thinkhost! How about it?

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  21. #21
    SitePoint Wizard TWTCommish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Posts
    3,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Vinay: yes, they're different business, but that just doesn't matter...everything I said was in response to a statement.

    The statement was their they had basically the same services and features, but that RedRival was free...this is incorrect, and I pointed it out...never said it made sense to go with ThinkHost or that RedRival wasn't a high quality free host...

    I simply pointed out the error in the statement...what's the problem? The hosts don't have to be the same type of host if all I'm doing is pointing out a slight mistake...so I don't see what your point is at all.

    ------------------
    Chris Bowyer - Programmer in Training
    MyCoding.com: Join our mailing list for launch notification!
    "I'm not an insomniac, I'm a web designer."

    [This message has been edited by TWTCommish (edited July 04, 2000).]

  22. #22
    ********* Addict
    Join Date
    Feb 2000
    Location
    NE FL, USA
    Posts
    301
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    A free host's customers are his advertisers. A pay hosts customers are his paying hosting accounts. If I as a hosting customer don't like what I'm getting for my $XX.XX per month, then attempt to resolve it with the host. But with free hosts, they rarely work with the actual hosting accounts. Their responsibility is to deliver ads.

    Just my $.02

    Mike

    ------------------
    Street Bikers United - protecting the rights of motorcyclists worldwide.
    Cosmic Custom Airbrush - Hawaii's premier airbrush studio.
    New Life Community Church - Your Christian online community

  23. #23
    Fluffy Kitten Programmer~ Elledan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    But that doesn't make a free host bad, there are enough examples of good free hosts, like Redrival.

    ------------------
    Webmaster
    www.emudreams.web.com

  24. #24
    SitePoint Wizard
    Join Date
    Sep 1999
    Posts
    1,390
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He means that you can't compare RedRival and a paid host. These are different categories, you can't compare them.

    You can't say a TV is better than a computer. A computer may provide more information that a television can, but thats one of its purposes. A TV was meant to entertain us.

    RedRival was meant to be a free host that was also good. ThinkHost was meant to be a paid host that was also good. Since they are in different categories, you can't rightly judge them. You could say "ThinkHost is better than Tele7" since they are in the same category, and serve the same purpose.

    I hope this clears it up...basically what he is saying is that you can't compare apples to oranges while you can't compare ThinkHost to RedRival.

    ------------------
    Aidan Bahta
    abahta@flashmail.com

    ActiveWM.com - The place for the Active Webmaster.

  25. #25
    SitePoint Wizard TWTCommish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Posts
    3,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes, yes...I understand the difference between a free host and a commercial host, and how each of them rake in the cash...and I understand that RedRival is a high quality free host...BUT, I still have no idea why Vinay means by "apples and oranges"...all I did was address what I felt (and still feel) was an incorrect statement...so what's the problem?



    ------------------
    Chris Bowyer - Programmer in Training
    MyCoding.com: Join our mailing list for launch notification!
    "I'm not an insomniac, I'm a web designer."

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •