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    how to make fonts appear

    i have downloaded a couple of cool fonts i'd like to use on my site, problem is only i can see them as i have them installed on my pc. is there any way that i can have anyone see them from any browser? - thx

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    unless they have the font installed on their PC, they'll just see their default font. You can suggest people download and install your fonts (provided they are free for use by all), but they probably wont be bothered.

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    god, this brings back memories of the failed "font-embedding" technologies of years gone by...
    if you're only wanting a few headlines, headings etc to be in a particular font, i guess you could make it into a small graphic (as long as you provide adequate ALT text for non-graphics-enabled browsers and/or screenreaders)...
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    Originally posted by redux
    god, this brings back memories of the failed "font-embedding" technologies of years gone by...
    LOL

    Whatever happened to all those cool ideas

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    Copyright and the idea of passing fonts around

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    you never know...they might be resurrected, as part of a palladium/lagrande enforced drm system
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    god, this brings back memories of the failed "font-embedding" technologies of years gone by...
    non-graphics-enabled-browsers.... people need to realize it's 2002, not 1995. if people don't want to update their browser, then screw them, don't write you pages for something like "lynx", that's their problem if it doesn't appear right.
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    superbrava, what the hell are you on about ? how about blind / partially-sighted users who still use lynx, as it connects to a braille display...are you saying "screw them" ? just because they can't see, they're not worthy of reading your pages ? or how about those who want to access pages via PDA/cellphones/etc ? "screw them" because they don't want to carry around a full-fledged laptop or pc with the latest browsers with them ?
    i don't quite see how that relates to the sentence you're quoting ? it's not lynx etc that held back font-embedding, but (as plat correctly put it) issues of copyright (as the tested technologies couldn't guarantee that users wouldn't "reuse" the fonts once they were downloaded to their machine to enable the "intended" viewing of a page...and copyright holders felt just a tad uneasy about their property floating around the net, bundled with pages).
    you, sir, are a troll !
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    Originally posted by platinum
    Copyright and the idea of passing fonts around
    I'd rather say the extra work. You need to update the embedded font everytime the page get's updated.

    And the fact that it's not cross browser.

    Embedded fonts are useless outside the page, so there is not so much of a copyright problem.

    I certainly don't consider font embedding a stupid idea though.

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    I think thats the 'official' reason
    If you start embedding $100 fonts into your webpage without the people viewing it purchasing a copy for themselves, there are issues

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    non-graphics-enabled-browsers.... people need to realize it's 2002, not 1995. if people don't want to update their browser, then screw them, don't write you pages for something like "lynx", that's their problem if it doesn't appear right.
    gimmick-filled-websites.... web developers need to realise it's 2002, not 1997. People want websites that work - they don't want to have to download plugins, extra fonts and browser upgrades just to find out their local cinema times or read a news story. Accessibility, standards compliance and future-proof code are the big targets - how good your site looks visually in a couple of popular browsers is no where near important as how well your site can be interpreted by the many other user agents that are set to emerge in the next few years.


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    na, mainly just people who think it's stupid to have a website with graphics on it. people who think lynx is the ... and there is nothing better, trust me, they are out there too.
    Steve v3.2.2 running on LocalSuck port 80

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    Look at this to see what you can do with fonts:
    http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...os/3/demo3.htm

    Use IE and eh... click "yes" when asked to download the font (it goes into temporary internet files).

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    You can use Flash to embed the fonts for you. Does a pretty good job of it.


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