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    I recently lost some data because I don't back up anything at all , so I have now decided to do weekly backups of all changed files on my system.
    Can anyone recommend any good, cheap and powerful backup programs that I can use?

    Thanks everyone!


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    If you don't have a backup device yet, I strongly recommend that you purchase a 20 gig tape backup drive. It will also come with software that you can use.

    Seagate, Tivoli, and Symantec make good backup programs. Colorado and Sony make good tape machine. At work we use Compaq backup servers with seven 35 gigabyte tapes drives in them as well as have a 20 gigabyte colorado drive installed in each server.

    If you want to make backup image that can be used to restore lost data you can also look into Ghost or Drive Image. While not technically backup program they can be used as such very well.

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    Thanks wluke!
    At the moment, I can't really afford to get any kind of backup drive like the ones you mentioned.
    I do have a CD-R drive, and was hoping that there was some software (other than the Backup program included in Windows, which is kind of rubbish ) that could burn a backup to a CD at a time I have scheduled beforehand.
    I will be getting some kind of backup drive as soon as I can, but that won't be for a few months at least, so I am looking for a temporary solution that I can use for until I can find something better.

    Thanks for the comic link Adam!

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    For something cheaper, http://www.Iomega.com might be a good idea...the makers of Zip and Jaz drives...Zip drives can hold 100MB per disk (more if compressed); I've used them before and they're pretty useful.



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    The jazz drives from Iomega can hold up to 1Gb of info.

    There is also the SparQ drive from www.syquest.com

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    Another cheap device you can look into is an ORB drive. They cost about the same a Zip drive but each cartridge holds 2.2 gigabytes. I believe it comes with backup software. As for writing to a CDR I would suggest Adaptec Easy CD if you don't have Windows Media Player 7.0 installed. Or Nero Burner. Not sure how automatic they are though. If your CDR has drag/drop capabilities you could write a simple WSH script or DOS Batch file to copy files in certain directories at particular times.

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    Thank for your help everyone!
    wluke: Why would me having Windows Media Player 7 installed stop me form using Adaptec Easy CD Creator? Thanks for the ORB info - I will be looking into that very soon.

    I will probably end up buying either a ZIP drive or ORB drive; I didn't really want to spend much cash but they are not very expensive and it will be a worthwhile investment.

    Thanks everyone!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote/font><HR>Originally posted by KeithMcL:
    There is also the SparQ drive from www.syquest.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I believe SyQuest went bankrupt. I do have a working SparQ drive and it is really great. Much faster than anything else I've seen, and it works perfectly too.



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    There are programs that let you copy your entire hard drive to CD-R/W discs. I don't know of any names, but I do know that there are a few.

    The only problem with that is that you'd have to backup very often and use a ton of discs to keep up-to-date backup CDs.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote/font><HR>
    wluke: Why would me having Windows Media Player 7 installed stop me form using Adaptec Easy CD Creator?
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    There is a conflict that prevents any version of Easy CD Creator from running properly if Media Player 7 is installed. This is a known issue and documented on both the Microsoft and Adaptec sites. There is no fix yet. I think it may involve DLL's with the same names, which is bad though I have to admit I haven't researched it fully at this time..

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    Thanks for the tip wluke - I didn't know about that. I do have Windows Media Player 7 so I'll have to get a copy of Nero or similar if I do decide to take the CD backup route.
    I am probably going to get a cheap internal ZIP drive, although the ORB does sound interesting so I am going to find out a bit more about that before I do anything.
    Thanks again everyone.

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    Adam: I HAVE Adaptec DirectCD and Windows Media Player 7 and I don't have any problems. What I did read in a Mag. that you can't use DirectCD and Nero burner on one system...

    Adaptec directCD works just fine to me... And it has drag and drop capabilities.

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    I was upgrading so here it is:

    Adaptec Easy CD Creator driver incompatibility
    Microsoft is aware of driver compatibility issues caused by installing Windows Media Player 7 on a computer running Windows 2000 that has any Adaptec Easy CD Creator version installed earlier than version 4.02, including version 3.5.

    If you have installed a version of Easy CD Creator earlier than version 4.02 on a computer running Windows 2000, do one of the following:
    Remove any version of Easy CD Creator earlier than 4.02 from your hard disk before installing Windows Media Player 7.
    Upgrade to the latest version of Easy CD Creator before installing Windows Media Player 7.
    During set up of Windows Media Player 7, clear the Adaptec CD-Burning Plug-in check box to prevent the CD burning feature of Windows Media Player 7 from being installed.
    Important Failure to follow these instructions may cause your machine to boot improperly.

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    The bug effects versions after 4.02 on NT 2000 Server as well. We use that and had Easy CD creator on a server and when they installed the service pack, they installed Media Player 7 (don't ask me why its a server) and Easy CD Creator blew up.

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    Has anyone had any experience with Norton Ghost? I am very tempted to buy it, seeing as how I have no backup of my PC. What other options do I have? If it helps, I have a CD-RW...

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    Where I work we use Norton Ghost to install and recover user workstations. It is a very simple program to use and setup. I would recommend it.

    A competitor to Ghost is called Drive Image and runs for about 1/3 the cost. Both are comparable programs.

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    I occcasionaly use Norton Ghost to reformat Windows 98 machines - I have a Ghost image taken after the file copy is done, but before device detection and serial number prompts, so it is a completely generic Win98 install, and it saves me about 30 mins.
    It is very reliable, I have never had any problems with it.
    I do not want to use Norton Ghost for my backups because I don't want to backup the whole drive - just the stuff that has changed since the last backup.


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    Yep, I even managed it to get a blue screen while installing drivers (for my soundcard). This was after formatting the HD and installing Windoze

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    Well that means that either the drivers were corrupt, or they modified the Windows system files and damaged one of them beyond repair.
    You can be pretty sure it wasn't caused by Windows that time .



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    I've tried Ghost once, but when I excited the program, I got a Blue Screen after which Windows crashed. That was on Windows 98. I haven't tried it after that.

    If I make a backup, I place the files on the HD of a computer in the network, who's always used for backups. It's pretty safe.

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    You seem to have some large problems with Windows.

    All I can say is that currently the IT department at work is upgrading everyone in the company to IBM 500 mhz P-III's and Ghost is being used. They are restoring 4 gigabyte compressed images with all the software the end user needs in about 30 minutes per machine.

    Of course you need to make sure that when you create the image the machine is in prime condition because if it has problems, they will be copied to the image as well. Second you can't be in Windows when you restore the image, which is why they supply a boot disk.

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    Well since everything worked again like Windows is *supposed* to work I guess that it was just a slight internal error.

    PS. Have I mentioned that I lost two directories (full of MP3z) while copying them to an other HD? I had to use ScanDisk to retrieve them and could then manually rename them (all 52!). The Horror...

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    Microsoft have now provided a fix for the WMP7/Easy CD Creator problem.
    You can find it in Knowledge Base article 269381 or at this URL: http://support.microsoft.com/support...-US&SD=gn&FR=0



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