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    is it discrimination or what?

    i have been working in a office for 1.5 yr now and recently i came to know the guy hired with me who is software engineer got 35+ increment and i got only 10+ as i am web developer & designer, i verified the news and it was correct. later on i came across chats in of same fellow chatting with other colleagues while on vacations in which i was being discussed as 'did i come or not','did,'am i coming to office'.moreover the guys r from old office they use to work together there and now i feel like they r forming a group. as no one in office ask/update me if they r going out of office, absent and etc. am i loosing respect, is it time to switch job? what is it happening, like me being discussed, and me getting less raise where i work lot good than him while i code, new comers don't tell me/ask me of absence but tell the guys came after me. what is wrong? how can i take control.
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    I'm a little concerned that your worries may magnify the problem. Don't lose site of doing your best each and every day, and being kind to yourself and your colleagues. Do nice things for people around the office. Come in early. Compliment others.

    Even if you are not being treated fairly, make sure you are doing all the right things, and developing yourself to the best of your ability. And if possible, tell your boss how much you appreciate your job and see if he/she has some suggestions for ways you could improve.

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    Are you both professionally trained (graduated in the fields you're working in)?

    Some things come to mind:

    - does he have a higher education?
    - has he been actively working in his profession longer?
    - has he been at the current workplace longer than you have?
    - is his profession simply one that is generally better paid than yours?
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    There is talk going on about you ! And could be they are ousting you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kohoutek View Post
    Are you both professionally trained (graduated in the fields you're working in)?

    Some things come to mind:

    - does he have a higher education?
    - has he been actively working in his profession longer?
    - has he been at the current workplace longer than you have?
    - is his profession simply one that is generally better paid than yours?

    And, is he in management where his is responsible for production?

    If so, those guys have the right to make more cause they have more responsibilities.

    Best thing to do is mind your own business and GROW in your profession...leave the soap opera alone.

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    Just because he is management doesn't mean he as the right to spread stuff about the person, he should be more mature but alot of management is far from mature, more like children. He should just try to do his Job the best he can and don't do anything that will jeopardize his job and in the meantime if this continues try to get the hell out.

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    he isn't in management, he is just a guy. who have less experience in profression as compared to me. he is clever that's all
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    Not Clever, either a ******* or a bully.

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    both. more of bully
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    Quote Originally Posted by nofel View Post
    both. more of bully
    Well, then...invite him out to your favorite pub on Saturday night...have a few brew-skis, start an argument, and open up a can of whip azz!

    If possible, get him to throw the first punch so it'll be self-defense when you hit him long, hard, and continually.

    If this won't work...quit the job so you don't have to put up with being bullied. (no respect in doing this...)
    Personally, I'd whip his azz!

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    quitting job is last resort
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    Quote Originally Posted by nofel View Post
    quitting job is last resort
    Cool, so you're going to bust him in the mouth right?

    You know, the only way to effectively deal with bullies is to hurt them...

    Negotiating with bullies doesn't work as Neville Chamberlain found out.

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    i can't pick a fight. its a office not a bar :P
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    Well, then...invite him out to your favorite pub on Saturday night

    If he is a bully, you have but two choices...defend yourself, or run away.

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    beating is not a option nor run away. settling the score i wanna do
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    You said he was the one hiring you! What is his relation to the management?

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    he didn't he was hired one day after me.
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    Whether the guy is a bully or not, it really doesn't matter. Personally, by the way your saying what's going on, I think that you may be worrying a bit too much.

    At the end of the day, you have to do what dvduval said. Do your job the best you can, be nice to others and go on with your life.

    The difference in salary may be because, as you said, he's a software engineer while you're a web developer and designer. Both jobs are different, and he may have less experience on web but more experienced on other fields or/and more responsibilities. Or maybe he's more efficient. Or simply, he knows how to deal with people.

    It may also be that his salary is higher because he's a better negotiator and he knows how to sell himself. But that's not his fault, is it? You do need to learn that skill as well.

    You say that he's clever. Well, then be clever yourself and do the smart thing. Stop worrying about what others say and do and worry about your job.

    If you're nice and open minded, and if they think that they have something in common with you, they will invite you to join their group. If not, it is not the end of the world and it will only be a problem if you make it a problem.

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    Good luck with that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nofel View Post
    both. more of bully
    Why is he a bully?

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    well first think he has 2 guys which use to work with him in previous office, he has his support and he tries do tell me how to do my work whereas he say BS coz he has no concept of things like tables,css etc etc but he say it with so confidence that the ignorant person will say wow he is right
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    Plain and Simple, he is a bully and a jackass. You need to do what you can for now and try to find another Job the atmosphere has changed and it's not working with you and no matter how hard you try I don't think you going to make any progress.

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    i agree on that also i came to these conclusion
    1) never hire same bunch of guys from old office, where they use to work together
    2) there always should be a PM in the room along with team. so no bully n more work
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    We can forget about the 2 guys... just because they're friends and support each other doesn't make him a bully. The fact that he tells you how to do your work... well, that may do it, depend on how he does it... Pretending to know more than what you know is silly, but that hardly makes you a bully.

    The thing is if you really feel left out because they're really leaving you out or because you're making yourself being left out because you believe that's what they're doing and it is your own fears that cause it.

    If the first, I wouldn't worry much but I would start to look for another job. If you don't want to change your job, you may need to enlighten him when he speaks to you. I mean, don't try ot outsmart him in front of others. That's rude and it will only work againts you. But definately, if he tries to tell you how to do your work and he's not your manager, feel free to answer him that you do know what you have to do and you appreciate his counsel but have good reasons to follow another path.

    If the second, then it is you who needs to change and being objective towards oneself is one of the hardest thing that we can do.

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    Telling NoFel to beat him up and be nice is pointless. If this 'group' is determined to get NoFel out of the office all that fluff talk won't do nothing. As I said if this continues NoFel you have to find another Job that the atmosphere works with you.

    It doesn't matter whether this other party has a better position, more income etc he is a bully who is acting like an adolescent in the workplace, that is how he probably got the position by bullying.


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