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    UFO Over Mia Mia, Victoria, Australia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AQYyLBaAh8

    Today I took a photo of a UFO over Mia Mia.

    What do you think?

    I will also attach the original photo, because a lot of quality is lost with YouTube flash...

    I cropped it a little, because if attachment size limits.
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    you took a picture of a cloud, dude

    also, one of those lights is jupiter

    nice try, though, and good luck scraping up the dosh to buy an actual video camera
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    Yeah well I have a camera but it wont record Jack.

    I need a high definition camera with heaps of zoom. Or, even better one that I can hook up to a spotting scope. It costs thousands of dollars. I don't have thousands of dollars right now.

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    It's a bird... it's a plane... it's Superman!

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    Hey don't make jokes, U.S. government and military officials have been seeing them too. Even CNN says so...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI

    That's from the 27th of September. Someone uploaded it from CNN.

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    dude, you don't seriously expect us to view an hour and eleven minutes of a talking head?

    ~lots~ of people have seen UFOs, but that doesn't mean they're space ships from uranus

    all they are is unidentified
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    You don't have to watch anything that you don't want to.

    Also, you don't need to remind me of what UFO means. I don't believe in "aliens".

    However, I do believe there are a lot of things in our skies that we (the people) are not aware of, but some people on this planet are. ie: The ones that put certain technologies to the airspace.

    So, if I'd like to promote anything; it's not that "aliens" are coming to get us. It's: "Be careful of anyone saying that aliens are coming to get us".

    There is a chance that in the very near future, you'll see more and more people getting on TV saying: "I saw a UFO". The mainstream media is promoting more and more stories.

    I was also personally contacted by the SyFy channel last week. The wanted to use my videos for their show. I told them that they can use them only if they give me (my website) credit, and if they do not use the footage to declare that I believe in aliens. I haven't heard back from them yet -- and I don't expect to.

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    MrLen, I was just kidding
    Those pictures are so vague, it might be anything. A cloud like Rudy says, or maybe a balloon, who knows.

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    Yes, that's why I need a better camera. So I can take closer photos. I have thousands and thousands of photos on my computers. Some of them are extremely good. I have flying disks and orbs right over my place. Pretty clear pictures too. But I need better equipment. There is a good reason that I am taking these photos. It's not because I am trying to prove evidence of 6 foot reptilians. If anything, it's the contrary. However, I do have reason to believe that there's some pretty advanced stuff zipping around our skies.

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    I'm not saying that isn't a ufo, but I can say it would take me no more than 5 minutes to stick a "spaceship" on an image of the sky using Photoshop.

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    It's probably a flaming ball of pith fired from a trebuchet in the 11th century. The fire was extinguished by the time travel. It's pretty obvious. Look again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalon View Post
    I'm not saying that isn't a ufo
    Good job cos it is a UFO, you're one of the afore mentioned people who thinks UFO means alien spaceship, it doesn't. Since no one we know knows what it was, it's unidentified. Either that or it's a blob on my pc screen right in the middle of that photo.
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    Looks like a drop of water on the lens. Those clouds look like rain.

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    Looks like a pea in the sky or a kite. Hope to see more pics tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    Good job cos it is a UFO,
    I think that it's far more likely to not be a ufo. I'm not sure that whatever it is is even actually flying.

    As I mentioned before it would take me no more than 5 minutes in Photoshop to create an illusion of a ufo.

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    One of the most common comments I have on my YouTube channel is:

    "Fake"

    "Photoshop"

    "Threw a rock in the air"

    ..things like that. Then I automatically get offended, and I feel like elbowing the person who made the comment in the head. I stop just thought of firing back when I stop to consider that there are thousands of purposeful fakes uploaded to YouTube, and that it's hard for people not to simply think that I am yet another person uploading dodgy fakes.

    I see this thread heading in the same direction, so I've decided to just ignore it and not respond. But I at least want to interject and say this:

    1). I don't upload fakes.
    2), I don't upload anything that I know what it is, and try to pass it off as something that I don't know.
    3). That picture above isn't a flying rick, bread, anything on the lens or anything like that. It wasn't raining that day, and none of the photos before or after that have water on the lense. No it isn't superman either.

    What ever is in that photo surely is something in the sky. WHAT is it? I don't know. But I do know that my camera was set to maximum zoom, so anything "close" like a big or stone being thrown would be nothing but a blur (because that's just how depth of focus works). What ever is in that photo, at the very least, is higher than the trees I was standing near.

    Additionally, if anyone still thinks I am purposefully making fakes (and I can't truly blame you if you do), just go check out my YouTube Channel. There are some great "saucer" photos there that are impossible to fake with photoshop. Or if I am throwing rocks, I must have a pretty good arm to throw them so high that the camera can barely pick them up in the distance.

    I also have the original photos, and if anyone wants to see them and look for photoshop artifacts, be my guest. I don't photoshop anything.

    I know I know, maybe overly defensive, but if there's going to be any conversation, the most absurd suggestions should be at least ruled out so that I don't have to deal with them (again). I've been deleting those comments from my YouTube channel for a year. I'm kind of over them.

    Just to clarify. Here's what I consider to be valid responses:

    - It could be anything.
    - It is a UFO, ufo doesn't mean "aliens".
    - Very interesting.
    - Do you have the original photo so I can inspect it?
    - Do you have the original footage?

    Here's stuff that irritates me!

    - There MUST be life off earth! This is an alien spaceship for sure!
    - Oh stop uploading this garbage, There's no aliens!
    - It's the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER - HAHAHAHA!
    - Fake.
    - You're a noob. Nice photoshop, but not very good. (Yes this is actually a common response!)
    - You are an idiot.
    - You suck.
    - Swamp gas.

    All I am saying is that there's certainly some weird stuff zipping around our skies, and I have reason to believe that such activity will increase. I have personal experiences which I could cite, but I know enough to know that there's no point even bringing that stuff up. Been there. Never ends with me smiling.

    So, I just take photos and let people think what they like. I delete and block people on my YouTUbe channel that say anything stupid, so that I can build a subscriber base of people who are intelligent, respectful and have an open mind.

    So, those are my thoughts. I just wanted to clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeN View Post
    Just to clarify. Here's what I consider to be valid responses:

    - It could be anything.
    - It is a UFO, ufo doesn't mean "aliens".
    - Very interesting.
    - Do you have the original photo so I can inspect it?
    - Do you have the original footage?
    I'm in the "It could be anything" group

    Bear in mind that posting you don't upload fakes etc, no offence, probably means absolutetly zero to most people including me, especially when you are a complete stranger.

    Surely if you want to be taken seriously, the onus of proof is on you to prove beyond doubt any claims you make are true and there is no obligation on anyone reading unsubstantiated claims to just blindly accept them.

    In my case, what you say may or may not be true but knowing how easy it is to fabricate such images I don't blindly accept photos of ufo's as being genuine until they are proven to be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalon View Post
    I'm in the "It could be anything" group

    Bear in mind that posting you don't upload fakes etc, no offence, probably means absolutetly zero to most people including me, especially when you are a complete stranger.

    Surely if you want to be taken seriously, the onus of proof is on you to prove beyond doubt any claims you make are true and there is no obligation on anyone reading unsubstantiated claims to just blindly accept them.

    In my case, what you say may or may not be true but knowing how easy it is to fabricate such images I don't blindly accept photos of ufo's as being genuine until they are proven to be so.
    I know, and I agree why, and I understand.. but it is still irritating, because I know I am not uploading fakes, or anything dodgy. I am not trying to convince you of my honestly, because as you've stated, that's not possible as I am a stranger. But for what ever it's worth -- anything I upload is 1). Sincerely unidentified 2). I don't upload anything where I know what it is, but try to pass it off as a UFO. I guess I just need to get better photos and footage. That will sort a slot of the people out who want to put me in with all the fake artist morons. Those are the people I am truly upset with. the LIARS. They make life difficult for honest people. Also, this is about the 5th camea I've been trough. So I know a bit about photography now, and I know the difference between dust or water on the lens, a bug, and something that's in the distance, within the depth of focus range. I know that when I upload something, it is most assuredly at least hundreds of feet away. If it is a blur, I know it is a fly something. I don't even upload those.

    On the other hand, if I took video footage of a 300 meter wide disk, glowing with lights, leaving me in its shadow, I am sure that if I uploaded it to YouTube, 90% of the people would say:

    CGI!
    Fake!
    Noob!

    I do have some pretty cool photos uploaded to YouTube, and they aren't even impressed with those (because they think they're fake). All I can say is: I have the originals and I am only too happy to hand them over to a photo expert.

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    no problem, good luck in your quest

    Have you sent any of your photos or video to NASA or maybe the CSIRO in Australia for verification?

    If they or any other authoritative agency can certify you have captured a genuine image of a non man made flying craft, it would be worth lots of $$$$$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalon View Post
    no problem, good luck in your quest

    Have you sent any of your photos or video to NASA or maybe the CSIRO in Australia for verification?

    If they or any other authoritative agency can certify you have captured a genuine image of a non man made flying craft, it would be worth lots of $$$$$$.
    Good question. No, and I wouldn't bother.

    Reasons:

    1). What makes them the authority?
    2). Even if they knew what it was, they wouldn't tell.

    A lot of people say to me: Did you "REPORT" it? It's a valid question, but when I say: "Um, no, why would I?", they start acting as if I am a fake because I didn't report it.

    I say again: Why should I report it? If there's anyone who DOES know what's going on, they're not going to tell "me"! And if they don't know what's going on, why should I even bother with them?

    I don't report nothin'. I sincerely don't see a point, no matter which way you look at it. I just upload things to YouTube.

    edit I'd just like to add. People reporting UFO's to "police" just gives me lol's and rofl's. That's like a kindergarten child reporting a 900 foot dragon to the teacher. If I was the kid, I'll just ignore the teacher and start moving in the other direction -- and fast..

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    ok, that is your choice. But the downside to that attitude is that it lessens the credibility of statements like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeN View Post
    I have the originals and I am only too happy to hand them over to a photo expert.
    I would be very surprised if people like NASA did not have their own photography experts or at least be able to outsource that type of work to reputable experts.

    Who do you consider to be a photo expert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalon View Post
    I think that it's far more likely to not be a ufo. I'm not sure that whatever it is is even actually flying.

    As I mentioned before it would take me no more than 5 minutes in Photoshop to create an illusion of a ufo.
    If it's in the air and it's unidentified it's a UFO so your second sentence makes no sense, what exactly would you be doing in photoshop? No one is saying it's anything other than an unidentified flying object, you seem to think that means spaceship. It doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    If it's in the air and it's unidentified it's a UFO so your second sentence makes no sense, what exactly would you be doing in photoshop? No one is saying it's anything other than an unidentified flying object, you seem to think that means spaceship. It doesn't.
    I haven't seen anything that proves it is in the air, let alone flying through it.

    Again, as I mentioned earlier it would take me no more than 5 minutes to stick a spaceship or anything else you like (even a pig ) on an image of the sky to create an illusion that it is flying through the air when actually there was nothing flying there at all when the original image of the sky was taken.

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    It's definitely something, just don't know what it is. I wouldn't be surprised at whatever it is, there is so much more out there, but most of us only believe in what we can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalon View Post
    ok, that is your choice. But the downside to that attitude is that it lessens the credibility of statements like this.



    I would be very surprised if people like NASA did not have their own photography experts or at least be able to outsource that type of work to reputable experts.

    Who do you consider to be a photo expert?

    You didn't get my point, and you've mixed up two reasoning's together (two things I said) that don't relate to each other. I didn't say that NASA doesn't have photo experts..

    As far as I can gather, you sense a contradiction between me saying: "I wouldn't report it" and "I am happy to show a photo expert".

    So, I will explain.

    I wouldn't report anything because I don't think there's anyone (or any agency) worth reporting anything to. Not NASA, not CSIRO. Not police. I report pictures I take to "YouTube viewers".

    I would be happy (though) to let a digital photo expert look at the pictures, not to "report the photos" - but to let people know that if anyone wants to analyze them, go right ahead. I don't care. They're not fake. All I am saying is that they would pass scrutiny by a photo expert, because not one of them is doctored. That was my point -- not that NASA's photo experts aren't good enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalon View Post
    I haven't seen anything that proves it is in the air, let alone flying through it.

    Again, as I mentioned earlier it would take me no more than 5 minutes to stick a spaceship or anything else you like (even a pig ) on an image of the sky to create an illusion that it is flying through the air when actually there was nothing flying there at all when the original image of the sky was taken.

    Ok, well you go and do that.. As for me, I'll continue to take photos and not doctor them. Again, if anyone wants the originals to be put up to scrutiny - mum's the word.. They're not doctored.


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