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  • Pay-Per-Click Search Engines

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    Question Advertising with a Shoe-String Budget

    I've been scoaring the internet for cheap, but effective ways to advertise. It's hard to find. I had one guy who would send my solo ad to his list of 7200, but wouldn't provide me with any reference that I could check, and he just wants me to send him money via PayPal. Too many questions there. I know one of the best things to do is create your own newsletter, which were in the process of doing.

    I just need to find something cheap and effective. Pay-per-Click Search Engines scare me, because of an experience I had. I just don't know what to do. I don't have much of a budget to work with, maybe $50 at the most. I want to give somethings a shot, but when you've been unemployed for two months and are barely scrapping by, its scarey.

    So please, give me some suggestions. I don't know where to go. I've looked at so many things and don't know what to trust.

    HELP!!!
    Tiffany Crader

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    I don't mean to be picky, but why do you have a link in your signature line that answers your question?

    But personally I think that if you can find any offline advertising, it is more effective than online advertising.
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    erm but why are you having problems with traffic? you're selling a product that "Instantly Receive 20,000 Targeted Visitors to Your Website Within Minutes ...." as stated on your site?

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    Hi bjm4ever,

    Your product seems to be the answer to your problems and it's within your budget ($19.95)

    Now, for some constructive help, I recommend the following:

    1. Learn about search engine optimization. You can get some really good traffic just by getting top rankings on the free search engines (Google especially).

    2. You can go to the cheaper pay per click and find good key phrases for only $0.01 per click.

    2. Get a lot of site to link to you in order to get some of their visitors. A good software that can help you with this is the free version of zeus at http://www.cyber-robotics.com/index.htm. Zeus will allow you to get some traffic from link exchange BUT BEWARE. Don't listen to their bias comments against the search engines. Their courses are aimed to discredit the search engines in order to increase the value of their product, and it's not totally honest. There is enough truth to what they say to be believable, but enough untruths to be a lie.

    Zeus will create and manage your own directory of related web sites and will send an email to the site owners and ask them if they could do the same and link to your site. Now, I don't recommend you use its automated email. Read the short course that they have on Zeus as it's actually a good course--just disregard their comments about search engines.

    One thing they won't tell you is that you must be careful not to link to sites that have been banned from Google. If you link to websites that have been banned by Google, you may get penalized or even get banned from Google. You find this information by reading the Google PageRank. If you donít know where to read the Google PageRank, just download the free Google toolbar and send me an e-mail. Iíll be happy to show you how it works.

    Your site (if itís an honest one) is aimed for other online business. You may want to submit to the smaller B2B directories that have top rankings on Google. This will help you on getting a good Google PageRank and get top rankings--more traffic.

    With a little time, this should increase your traffic.

    You may also start an affiliate program. There are third party sites that will take care of all the logistics of the affiliate program. I believe that RevShare.com is one of them.

    Thatís just a few ideas.

    However, itís word of mouth and recommendations from others that will generate the most sales and that will come with a good quality product. Now, I donít want to sound critical, but if your product is genuine, why are you having difficulties with traffic?

    I am honestly curious.

    Sheriff.

    PS, I need the help of every one on my own posting http://www.sitepointforums.com/showt...threadid=70441

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    Google Add words Select, is the way forward.

    Very cheap and highly targeted audience, you only pay for traffic and you can select an amount to spend each day As low as $1) Especially good, if your position ranking is not very good!!

    its worth a try for a week or two!
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    Hmm....I'm suspicious.....

    A company that does traffic generation looking for ways to generate traffic?

    Do I smell "ad posing as help request"

    How many of us fell for it? I did.

    Do you know what made me think thats what it was?

    No follow up posts from "Tiffany" in the thread responding to everyones very helpful responses.....

    Hmm.....Am I wrong?
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    I think we all fell for it, although I didnt click on her sig link as its not live!!!! Now theres a good marketing tip in itself!!

    Wow two usefull comments from me in one thread, im gonna go and lie down.....
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    yeah but too sneaky for my taste....

    now i'll never want to use them....

    so thats the marketing tip: post a help request masquerading as an ad, but make sure that you dont link it so that people will have to copy and paste it into a browser in order to view it....engages the customer...brilliant strategy ;-)
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    Hi thinkfuture,

    I don't see this as brilliant at all,

    If anything, He discredited himself in this posting.

    Would you believe that he is selling a legitimate product if it can't even help him?

    To clearly see my point, just read the comments in this thread about his product. None of them are positive.

    If I were bjm4ever, and if this is a genuine cry for help, then I would revise my product, but if this is a trick, then he may want to revise his own ďaddĒ campaign.

    Doing business by tricking people isn't going to make anyone rich.

    That's just my opinion.

    Sheriff

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    Let's face it ... There are just too many marketing "gurus" out there trying to sell "super marketing" knowledge which they themselves don't find useful

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    This was not an attempt to promote, I mean look around, everyone puts they're URL in their signature. This was an honest plea. I guess it doesn't matter though. People always think the worse of other people no matter what they do. Oh well. I guess that's just life. Thanks to those who actually did try to help me, I guess I'll take my URL out of my signature even though everyone else does.

    BTW, with every product you sell, you're always looking for "new" ways to market. I'm trying here guys, please give me a break!

    Thanks!
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    This was not an attempt to promote, ... This was an honest plea. BTW, with every product you sell, you're always looking for "new" ways to market. I'm trying here guys, please give me a break!
    Got it. I guess you did not realize we think of the term 'promote' and the term 'market' to mean similar things.

    Just curious since you say you were trying a new technique on us, did someone at netpixel write the the text in the original post you made in this thread?

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    I'm amazed with those of you that have attacked this person for asking a perfectly reasonable question, (regardless of the product they're promoting).

    Even companies that sell "traffic generating" programs online have to find new and effective marketing strategies. Their product does not make them excempt from doing so. If any of you have any "online marketing" experience at all, you'll know there's no secret passage to generating traffic, and there are thousands of different ways to do it. There is no "Be-All, End-All" answer to this question, but I find it extremely shallow to accuse "bjm4ever" of Spamming the thread, (which they created w/ a poll).

    To the Bald Guy: You're a CTO, so perhaps I should feel obliged in excusing your ignorance in this matter. Your types are always the first to cry "SPAM" when something doesn't approve with your Nazistic perspective. I'm quickly reminded of another thread on Site Point where someone asked the harmless question, "What constitues as SPAM?" and he was immediately attacked and accused of being a "bulk-mailer" himself.

    Try to look beyond the signature and help propel the value of Site Point's Forums, not degrade it to "Geek Territory". If it was indeed "SPAM", than I assume Site Point would have removed the thread days ago. Get a grip.

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    Twisted words, twisted words ketu. What I meant was, don't you think that even people that sell traffic need traffic? Guess not. Oh well. Btw, I changed my signature. Thanks!
    Tiffany Crader

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    Hi ZerOXeS,

    Thank you. I was that chap who started the 'What constitutes Spam!' debate only to find myself accused of being a spammer. (I am actually not involved in any way with web design, devlopment or marketing. Just an interested outsider.) It was truly a low point in my Sitepoint experience.

    In any case, since then I have come to the conclusion that most of those who take such a hard line stand have probably never stopped to consider that while they may not like it their colleagues in marketing are probably spamming (as they would define it any e-mail message to anyone that is not asked for is SPAM) away quite happily, thus ensuring that they can continue to have pay-checks at the end of each month.

    Needless to say, the whole thing left a very bitter taste in my mouth!

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    I'd recommend Ineedhits.com. They have some good programs that are affordable.

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    Originally posted by Zer0XeS
    I'm amazed with those of you that have attacked this person for asking a perfectly reasonable question, (regardless of the product they're promoting).

    Even companies that sell "traffic generating" programs online have to find new and effective marketing strategies. Their product does not make them excempt from doing so. If any of you have any "online marketing" experience at all, you'll know there's no secret passage to generating traffic, and there are thousands of different ways to do it. There is no "Be-All, End-All" answer to this question, but I find it extremely shallow to accuse "bjm4ever" of Spamming the thread, (which they created w/ a poll).
    Sorry!

    I apologize if I was wrong. I've just seen so many people use very sneaky measures to try and promote thier sites and services that I guess I've become kind of jaded. After getting 300 spam messages a day + you start to see it everywhere ;-)

    In that case: I do highly recommend Ad Words Select and other pay per click engines, however there is a lot other traffic generating services so it might be hard to stand out from the crowd.

    My first question does still stand though and maybe you can answer it for me Tiffany: why can't you use your own service to promote your service?
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    Originally posted by thinkfuture

    My first question does still stand though and maybe you can answer it for me Tiffany: why can't you use your own service to promote your service?
    I asked this in my previous reply too.

    I'm just very curious. Since you can "Instantly Receive 20,000 Targeted Visitors to Your Website Within Minutes ...." as promoted on your http://www.ultra-hits.com site, surely the same method can bring in plenty of orders.

    I don't get 20,000 targeted visitors in minutes . So even if you've with a conversion of less than 0.1%, you'll still score, right? So how was the result from using your own service?

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    The option that is most effective to me isn't on your list. That is Word of Mouth. This has to be the cheapest way to advertise in the world and the most effective as well. Nothing beats a personal recommendation from a friend telling someone that you can feel their needs.
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    Originally posted by W. Luke
    The option that is most effective to me isn't on your list. That is Word of Mouth. This has to be the cheapest way to advertise in the world and the most effective as well. Nothing beats a personal recommendation from a friend telling someone that you can feel their needs.
    That's a good one. Word of mouth - used cleverly online - becomes very powerful viral marketing. This is one of the best source of traffic in terms of ROI, yet rarely written about.


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